Echo Link


GEORGE KI5GTG
 

Anybody Use This I get on it and use it quit a bit works great. Some hams dont think its same as using a Radio. I agree but my Handheld dont talk as far as I can on Echo link. Just see what others think. Thanks 73s.


GEORGE KI5GTG
 

Echo Link is what I'm asking if anyone has used it.


On Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 2:54 PM GEORGE KI5GTG via Groups.Arrl.Org <creekg=dps-littlejohns.net@...> wrote:
Anybody Use This I get on it and use it quit a bit works great. Some hams dont think its same as using a Radio. I agree but my Handheld dont talk as far as I can on Echo link. Just see what others think. Thanks 73s.


K8TS
 

George;

We are adding Echolink capability to our local area.  It is a fine method of communicating.  It is a savior to many who can not have outdoor antennas.  The fact it ties into the internet is no different that the spotting networks used on HF.  However I will state that I am one who opposes remote operation.  Remember that everything around you operates via RF.  Your cell phone, tv (even if it is cable), anything WIFI, your smart meter on your utilities, am/fm radio, and your cordless telephone.  Your GPS system in your car.

Good Luck, Have Fun

Dale K8TS

 

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From: GEORGE KI5GTG
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 3:54 PM
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Subject: [New-Hams] Echo Link

 

Anybody Use This I get on it and use it quit a bit works great. Some hams dont think its same as using a Radio. I agree but my Handheld dont talk as far as I can on Echo link. Just see what others think. Thanks 73s.

 


My Cellphone
 

George,

I haven't yet, as I'm still waiting for my call sign.  I know that I'll be following yours and others to experiment and see what works.


Rob Abbott
robabbott2002@...



On Friday, January 31, 2020, 1:38:18 PM PST, GEORGE KI5GTG <creekg@...> wrote:


Echo Link is what I'm asking if anyone has used it.

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 2:54 PM GEORGE KI5GTG via Groups.Arrl.Org <creekg=dps-littlejohns.net@...> wrote:
Anybody Use This I get on it and use it quit a bit works great. Some hams dont think its same as using a Radio. I agree but my Handheld dont talk as far as I can on Echo link. Just see what others think. Thanks 73s.


GEORGE KI5GTG
 

Thanks for the come back I seem to use Echolink more than my Handheld these days. Great way to pass the time anywhere with my cellphone. Alittle to easy I should add.


On Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 5:08 PM My Cellphone via Groups.Arrl.Org <robabbott2002=yahoo.com@...> wrote:
George,

I haven't yet, as I'm still waiting for my call sign.  I know that I'll be following yours and others to experiment and see what works.



On Friday, January 31, 2020, 1:38:18 PM PST, GEORGE KI5GTG <creekg@...> wrote:


Echo Link is what I'm asking if anyone has used it.

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 2:54 PM GEORGE KI5GTG via Groups.Arrl.Org <creekg=dps-littlejohns.net@...> wrote:
Anybody Use This I get on it and use it quit a bit works great. Some hams dont think its same as using a Radio. I agree but my Handheld dont talk as far as I can on Echo link. Just see what others think. Thanks 73s.


Bill Osler
 

I have used Echolink quite a bit in recent years, because it's the only way I can participate in nets in the Twin Cities, which are just outside my VHF FM range. We make it available for our Sunday night net here, and many club members use it when they travel. I checked in with the locals that way from Mt. Denali in Alaska. 

I've had some very interesting QSOs with Echolink. I worked a fellow in Tasmania who was walking on a beach there. I have had many contacts with Europe and Asia. I prefer to work people who are on radio at the far end, so we are increasing the activity on the air, not taking away from it. When our kids were little, I would use it to work my brother in California, and he would let my elderly Mom talk to her grandkids. 

I have to undergo a lengthy medical procedure three times a week, and Echolink helps ease the boredom sometimes. A few weeks ago, I was in the middle of this procedure, and I contacted a fellow who was mobile in the Twin Cities. Suddenly, he asked if I could call 9-1-1. It turned out that someone had lost a gas can in the middle of the freeway, on a bridge. I contacted the highway patrol in the Cities and the matter was handled. 

Yeah, it's not 'real radio' and it's no good for contests or awards (though there used to be some special Echolink awards out there). Neither are Dstar, DMR, or Fusion. But unless you care about that, I find it great fun to ragchew with people who would just give me a '59 73' report on HF. 
--
Bill, K0RGR


Bill Osler
 

Someone asked about how to start a QSO on Echolink. Yes, it's basically the same as anywhere else. Sadly, you will find that the activity on most of the repeater links are like any other repeater - a bit sparse, with activity concentrated on a few nodes. I'd suggest Googling 'Echolink Nets' for a list of daily nets. Those are also the most active nodes, I think. *DODROPIN* is pretty good, and 494492 is the Handihams net, but also one of the more active repeaters in the Twin Cities. I have found some German hams who speak English on the Munich machine on the Olympic Tower, and of course the hams in Great Britain speak something resembling English most of the time, as do the Australians and New Zealanders. Mind the time difference - calling in the middle of the night will probably not yield many results. 

When you connect to a node, Echolink announces you on the repeater with "(your call) connected". It also announces when you disconnect. You should listen for a minute to make sure the repeater isn't busy, then announce that you are listening. I usually say "K0RGR in Minnesota listening. Anyone around?" or some variant of that. 
--
Bill, K0RGR


Joe Sammartino
 

To Clarify....

Not all EchoLink capable repeaters announce EchoLink connections and disconnects on the RF side. That is up to the sysop to enable/disable.

Other than that, Bill's information is 100%. Just announce yourself like you would on any repeater via RF --- once you know it is clear to announce.

Regards,

Joe, N2QOJ

N2QOJ-R - Node # 185734


GEORGE KI5GTG
 

Thanks for the info. 


On Sun, Feb 2, 2020, 6:03 PM Joe Sammartino <jsammartino@...> wrote:
To Clarify....

Not all EchoLink capable repeaters announce EchoLink connections and disconnects on the RF side. That is up to the sysop to enable/disable.

Other than that, Bill's information is 100%. Just announce yourself like you would on any repeater via RF --- once you know it is clear to announce.

Regards,

Joe, N2QOJ

N2QOJ-R - Node # 185734


Lloyd Colston, KC5FM
 

If it’s “not real radio”. Why do I need a Callsign to use it?

As noted in this thread, it’s useful during emergencies. For example, the VOIPWXNET ... voipwx.net ... crew monitors during landfalling hurricanes in support of the National Hurricane Center. The Net has been able to receive reports and calls for help during those times. You are welcome to checkin, get trained, and become involved.

Echolink has not always been popular in some circles. Just as a station putting hum on AM or chirp on CW, some don’t connect to the Echolink test server to see what their signal is like before they connect to W1AW.

Allstar is another VOIP effort. KC5FM-R is 28848 there. Broad brush statement, Allstar and IRLP tend to have better audio than Echolink but ...

The audio on Echolink has improved greatly over the last few years because operators are taking more care with the technology.

Hope that helps.

73


--
Lloyd Colston, KC5FM


Sterling Mann (N0SSC)
 

Echolink is as real as picking up your HT and talking into it, it's just that the microphone cable is many many many miles long (when your connected to a repeater or conference with repeater connections).

When you're not connected to a repeater or any other RF gateway, there is no radio involved, so no license would be technically be required, but the program doesn't delineate its users in that way...and it probably never will because there's a thousand other VOIP apps that can reliably furnish those communications. I haven't talked to many people directly from echolink to echolink; i'd be curious to know the traffic statistics but i'd wager a significant majority of operators are using it to communicate to a repeater or linked conference that gates their voice to RF.

Contrast that to zello, which is a 180 degree flip: it's a VOIP walkie talkie app for the general public, where some have set up moderated ham-only servers (rooms) that gateway to repeaters/RF, where the moderators must individually verify its member's licenses. It's very interesting, and the audio is tenfold better sounding than echolink, but its application purpose isn't explicitly for ham radio so its a little challenging to integrate with repeaters, but it's generally very easy to use. It was highly effective in communication for the Cajun Navy and other rescue groups during Hurricane Irma, Maria, and Harvey (when cell networks were available).

-Sterling N0SSC


On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 7:04 AM Lloyd Colston, KC5FM <kc5fm@...> wrote:
If it’s “not real radio”. Why do I need a Callsign to use it?

As noted in this thread, it’s useful during emergencies. For example, the VOIPWXNET ... voipwx.net ... crew monitors during landfalling hurricanes in support of the National Hurricane Center. The Net has been able to receive reports and calls for help during those times. You are welcome to checkin, get trained, and become involved.

Echolink has not always been popular in some circles. Just as a station putting hum on AM or chirp on CW, some don’t connect to the Echolink test server to see what their signal is like before they connect to W1AW.

Allstar is another VOIP effort. KC5FM-R is 28848 there. Broad brush statement, Allstar and IRLP tend to have better audio than Echolink but ...

The audio on Echolink has improved greatly over the last few years because operators are taking more care with the technology.

Hope that helps.

73


--
Lloyd Colston, KC5FM




kn4vlt@...
 

Yes i've used echo link in the past and like it all though I am still figuring out all the features of it
Matthew kn4vlt


Brian WA5SON
 

I have the Echlink app on my phone and software on my PC however I primarily use AllStar now. Reason being I found AllStar has better audio quality/levels, propagation works like a regular radio, is more reliable, and I can experiment with its programming and capabilities.

I like Echolink for is ease of use and ease of ability to get on the network. I just found AllStar has some features that Echolink dosent have and these features appeal to how I wish to communicate with my license.


Dr Jim Kennedy
 

I also use EchoLink frequently. However, when using echolink it is necessary for both actual repeater users and echolink user to realize that there is a slight delay when beginning to transmit via an echolink connection. If normal repeater users do not give a few second break at the end of their transmission then there is an insufficient gap to allow echolink internet users to gain access to the repeater. Also, echolink internet users need to also allow a few seconds between transmissions to ensure that doubling does not occur. Establishing such a slight delay protocol helps the facilitate echolink communications.

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On Feb 1, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Bill Osler <wfosler@...> wrote:

I have used Echolink quite a bit in recent years, because it's the only way I can participate in nets in the Twin Cities, which are just outside my VHF FM range. We make it available for our Sunday night net here, and many club members use it when they travel. I checked in with the locals that way from Mt. Denali in Alaska. 

I've had some very interesting QSOs with Echolink. I worked a fellow in Tasmania who was walking on a beach there. I have had many contacts with Europe and Asia. I prefer to work people who are on radio at the far end, so we are increasing the activity on the air, not taking away from it. When our kids were little, I would use it to work my brother in California, and he would let my elderly Mom talk to her grandkids. 

I have to undergo a lengthy medical procedure three times a week, and Echolink helps ease the boredom sometimes. A few weeks ago, I was in the middle of this procedure, and I contacted a fellow who was mobile in the Twin Cities. Suddenly, he asked if I could call 9-1-1. It turned out that someone had lost a gas can in the middle of the freeway, on a bridge. I contacted the highway patrol in the Cities and the matter was handled. 

Yeah, it's not 'real radio' and it's no good for contests or awards (though there used to be some special Echolink awards out there). Neither are Dstar, DMR, or Fusion. But unless you care about that, I find it great fun to ragchew with people who would just give me a '59 73' report on HF. 
--
Bill, K0RGR