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Re: First Base Station Antenna

k5lxp@...
 

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 06:18 PM, Doug - AB7DG - Tacoma WA wrote:
(3) I doubt that connecting your HT to a base station antenna would accomplish much...your HT's signal will be severely attenuated by the antenna's feed line unless you have a very short, or very expensive, feed line.
It would take an especially long, or especially lossy feedline to overcome the signal increase by putting an antenna in a better location (e.g. roof).  One can come up with a loss number that would negate installing a given antenna configuration but it's not likely that you would encounter this in any typical residential installation.  A unity gain or nominal gain antenna on the roof and say up to 100' of moderate loss line like 8X is still a very useful antenna installation for most FM operating, most certainly better than a rubber duck on the radio inside a house.  

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM


Antennas

Anthony Luscre <k8zt73@...>
 

This short guide is part of my presentation- Portable Operations (tiny.cc/portop), but it covers a wide  variety of antennas and resources- tiny.cc/portant

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Buying Amateur Radio Transceivers

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Re: First Base Station Antenna

Doug - AB7DG - Tacoma WA
 

(1) I suggest including your call sign in your posts, so readers can easily identify your location. Perhaps you're KI5KFA  in Willis, TX.
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchAmateur.jsp

(2) Unless you're communicating line-of-sight with another HT operator, your 5W HT needs to connect to a higher-power repeater that will repeat your signal to a much greater area, and will relay any responses to you. If you are KI5KFA, then there are 10 FM repeaters near Conroe, TX that you may be able to hit with your HT. Most likely, some of those repeaters will host regularly scheduled nets that you might be welcome to participate in.
https://repeaterbook.com/repeaters/location_search.php?state_id=48&type=city&loc=Conroe

(3) I doubt that connecting your HT to a base station antenna would accomplish much. Recognize that on the 2M and 70cm band frequencies, your HT's signal will be severely attenuated by the antenna's feed line unless you have a very short, or very expensive, feed line.  My first, and perfectly adequate, base antenna for my FT-991A (100W) was a $35 J-pole that I bought at a hamfest, but the 50-ft feed line to my rooftop mount was about $100.(Altelix AX600).


Re: First Base Station Antenna

Timothy Page
 

https://n9taxlabs.com/shop/ols/products/dual-band-slim-jim-antenna-with-10-or-16-foot-cable

Get one of these and hang it on a curtain rod or better yet in a tree outside


Timothy M Page K0EON 
1209 NW 18th Street
Blue Springs, MO 64015

(209)482-7001


On Apr 25, 2022, at 17:07, David Moen via groups.arrl.org <davidmoen=icloud.com@...> wrote:


Hello,

Getting started with my first HT a Yaesu FT-3DR with an upgraded Diamond antenna. 

Simplex seems dead as I have only made a few passing contacts.

So, I am interested in buying a base station antenna to use my HT. 

Wanted to ask for some guidance. 

Best Regards



Re: First Base Station Antenna

Dr Jim Kennedy
 
Edited

I have found the discone antenna because of its gain and wide frequency coverage.
73, Doc - K2PHD


Re: First Base Station Antenna

k5lxp@...
 

Careful what you ask for there, HOA's are not your friend.  I've always gone the forgiveness is easier than permission route.  I have several groundplanes made from mobile whips and from a couple dozen feet a way you can't even see them.  A mobile whip has a pretty small profile and would be easy to mount most anywhere, so that could even be a final solution if that's all you could get away with. The Diamond/Comet colinears are decent antennas though, if you can put one of those on the roof you will be doing pretty well for basic FM simplex and repeater operation.  In terms of coverage (range) height trumps all, so if you have a choice of a "good" antenna mounted low or an "OK" antenna mounted high, take the higher one.

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM


Re: First Base Station Antenna

David Moen
 

Hello Mark,

Starting with a mobile antenna seems like a good approach, as I am waiting for a response from my HOA about putting up an antenna.

73


Re: First Base Station Antenna

David Moen
 

Hello Anthony,

Thank you for your guidance.

Looking into the Diamond V2000.

73


Re: First Base Station Antenna

k5lxp@...
 

Pretty much any antenna outside will be better than the one on the radio.  Even a mobile antenna like a mag mount or trunk lip mount put up on a roof or outside a window will be an improvement.  Not a lot of folks listen on simplex, might be better to hang out on a few repeaters first to make some acquaintances, and get familiar with the band and FM operating in general.
 
Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM


Re: First Base Station Antenna

Anthony Luscre <k8zt73@...>
 

A dual or triband fiberglass vertical would be my first choice
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On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 6:07 PM David Moen via groups.arrl.org <davidmoen=icloud.com@...> wrote:
Hello,

Getting started with my first HT a Yaesu FT-3DR with an upgraded Diamond antenna. 

Simplex seems dead as I have only made a few passing contacts.

So, I am interested in buying a base station antenna to use my HT. 

Wanted to ask for some guidance. 

Best Regards




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K8ZT
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First Base Station Antenna

David Moen
 
Edited

Hello,
 
Getting started with my first HT a Yaesu FT-3DR with an upgraded Diamond antenna. 
 
Simplex seems dead as I have only made a few passing contacts.
 
So, I am interested in buying a base station antenna to use my HT. 
 
Wanted to ask for some guidance. 
 
73

KI5KFA
 


Re: As a New or even Old Timer.... Do you know who your ARRL Section Manger is? Have you ever met them?

 

Mike AD7VV

Thank you for your service!

The ARRL Section Manager is 
a part of the ARRL Field Services

I have only found one thing in print from the ARRL
that has ever showed a conclusive picture of just what Field Services is
and that was in the On The Air magazines 2021 July/August edition
as a member you have access to it via the archives
The article is on page 10 and 11 of that July/August 2021 issue
However I still find the description on the Role of Sections managers responsibilities lacking specifics
and I am attempting to get that changed.

73
Steve
KG5VK
Steven Lott Smith
Tele 318-470-9806
ARRL NTX Section Manager 
Please note: My Out Going Email address is LottsPhoto@...
KG5VK@... is forwarded to my Gmail address




On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 8:08 AM Mike via groups.arrl.org <ltmike=protonmail.com@...> wrote:
Steve,

I'm located in North Pole, Alaska and to be honest I have no idea what a SM does or am not sure if I've ever met one. I congratulate you on your effort's sir and hope that someday we can meet or at least have a QSO.

For now, we're beginning to emerge from winter into what we call breakup (spring to you) and shed the mountains of snow accumulated up here since last September. I do see emails and read them when they come in. I am currently in a battle with stage 4 cancer and my ham activities have been hampered by this effort. I am planning a new antenna this summer (June, July, and half of August) and do like to work all modes including CW.

In my professional life I am the lead engineer for a flight simulator division of a major airline and so electronics is my money maker .... ham radio activities helps me keep my sanity ...

Please feel free to contact me if there is anything I may help you with sir.

73

Mike AD7VV

Lt. Michael Heit (Ret)
North Pole, Alaska 99705
AD7VV


“When you become entitled to exercise the right of voting for public officers, let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers, ‘just men who will rule in the fear of God.’ The preservation of [our] government depends on the faithful discharge of this Duty; if the citizens neglect their Duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted; laws will be made, not for the public good so much as for selfish or local purposes; corrupt or incompetent men will be appointed to execute the Laws; the public revenues will be squandered on unworthy men; and the rights of the citizen will be violated or disregarded. If [our] government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the Divine Commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the Laws.” – Noah Webster

"'Democracy,' where a handful of extremely wealthy and powerful insiders 'change rules and laws,' and 'control the flow of information,' this may not resemble the democracy that you learned about in civics class but is a term of art reflecting uniparty control from above.

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On Wednesday, March 30th, 2022 at 5:01 AM, Steven Lott Smith KG5VK ARRL NTX SM <lottsphoto@...> wrote:

Mark,

Thanks again !

I guess there really is no one magic bullet so to speak
my goal has always been to be visible and in reach of my our members

I attend as many club meetings and hamfest as possible
I have a very understanding and supportive wife
we are almost always at functions together
She is a licensed amateur radio op as well.

Newsletters from myself as the SM are sent by way of the ARRL SM Email toolset
which we are hoping to see a drastic improvement of
once the arrl site is back online.

I have only made it to New Mexico once and that was a very short trip through the North corner of the state
However it is a small world for us Amateur Radio ops as you know, and I look forward to
meeting you.

73
Steve
KG5VK
Steven Lott Smith
Tele 318-470-9806
ARRL NTX Section Manager
Please note: My Out Going Email address is LottsPhoto@...
KG5VK@... is forwarded to my Gmail address



On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 7:24 AM <k5lxp@...> wrote:
W5PDY's activities were well covered in the ARRL Letter, which I'd do a search for but as you mention, the site is down for the upgrade. I would say what was most notable about him is he was just a plain nice guy, and he would stop and talk to everyone. As I mentioned above, he was as much an ambassador as a manager. Given what you describe of your activities you are already far and away more than many SM's I've known over the years. Often the only time you saw or heard of them was the perfunctory "ARRL forum" at a hamfest, blathering about League business. It's hard to beat up on any of those in the field organization as it's volunteer, and a huge commitment if you take it seriously. From my perspective it's more about serving League members for their interests and needs, promoting the hobby, and lastly promoting the League. In these days of competing hobbies and interests it is an uphill battle to gain attention but it's possible. I don't think it takes any special activities or methods, once you've licked visibility and accessibility the rest is by the numbers. Assign your PIO to keep your section website fresh so it becomes a focal point of current events and not a static directory page. My SM sends out periodic mass emails but I don't think often enough, I'd like to know more about what's going on in the section so maybe you can look at that.

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM



Re: As a New or even Old Timer.... Do you know who your ARRL Section Manger is? Have you ever met them?

 

“In addition I am doing a virtual Round Table meeting every other month for the Club officers within our Section
as well as a Section Staff meeting.”
 
Organizing a Club President Council in a Section…meeting monthly by Zoom for < 30 minutes…would yield great benefits, imho. Organizing volunteers is far, far different than management and leadership in an employment situation. How much actual leadership training do SMs get on their ARRL orientation meeting?
 
73, Frank
 
Frank, excellent question and Idea
here is my reply.....

First very respectively I ask...... How does Organizing a Club President Council in a Section…meeting monthly by Zoom for < 30 minutes differ from having a virtual round table discussion with club officers in the section bimonthly differ from you excellent idea, other than monthly  Iam open to modifing what I do.

On the second part.....
Organizing volunteers is far, far different than management and leadership in an employment situation. How much actual leadership training do SMs get on their ARRL orientation meeting?  The answer is None !!!
I learned leadership while in the United States Airforce at The Strategic Air Command Non Comissioned Officer's Academy
and while leading men and wommen while serving in a combat zones (Twice)
The ARRL SM Indoctination consist of what to do and not do while you are a Section Manager
there are zero real tips on how to best serve our members. In fact for the last 4 sessions,maybe longer they have been doing these as Zoom conferences - which I am totaly against for many reasons.

I really feel they should pick two SM's from across the Country
to speak about how they best serve their members
with emphasis on face to face meeting with fellow ARRL members in their sections

Frank,
Thank you for having this conversation with me and anyone can do this with me anytime here or direct to my email
KG5VK@...

73
Steve
KG5VK
 


Re: As a New or even Old Timer.... Do you know who your ARRL Section Manger is? Have you ever met them?

Mike
 

Steve,

I'm located in North Pole, Alaska and to be honest I have no idea what a SM does or am not sure if I've ever met one. I congratulate you on your effort's sir and hope that someday we can meet or at least have a QSO.

For now, we're beginning to emerge from winter into what we call breakup (spring to you) and shed the mountains of snow accumulated up here since last September. I do see emails and read them when they come in. I am currently in a battle with stage 4 cancer and my ham activities have been hampered by this effort. I am planning a new antenna this summer (June, July, and half of August) and do like to work all modes including CW.

In my professional life I am the lead engineer for a flight simulator division of a major airline and so electronics is my money maker .... ham radio activities helps me keep my sanity ...

Please feel free to contact me if there is anything I may help you with sir.

73

Mike AD7VV

Lt. Michael Heit (Ret)
North Pole, Alaska 99705
AD7VV


“When you become entitled to exercise the right of voting for public officers, let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers, ‘just men who will rule in the fear of God.’ The preservation of [our] government depends on the faithful discharge of this Duty; if the citizens neglect their Duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted; laws will be made, not for the public good so much as for selfish or local purposes; corrupt or incompetent men will be appointed to execute the Laws; the public revenues will be squandered on unworthy men; and the rights of the citizen will be violated or disregarded. If [our] government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the Divine Commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the Laws.” – Noah Webster

"'Democracy,' where a handful of extremely wealthy and powerful insiders 'change rules and laws,' and 'control the flow of information,' this may not resemble the democracy that you learned about in civics class but is a term of art reflecting uniparty control from above.
www.survivalblog.com

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------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, March 30th, 2022 at 5:01 AM, Steven Lott Smith KG5VK ARRL NTX SM <lottsphoto@...> wrote:

Mark,

Thanks again !

I guess there really is no one magic bullet so to speak
my goal has always been to be visible and in reach of my our members

I attend as many club meetings and hamfest as possible
I have a very understanding and supportive wife
we are almost always at functions together
She is a licensed amateur radio op as well.

Newsletters from myself as the SM are sent by way of the ARRL SM Email toolset
which we are hoping to see a drastic improvement of
once the arrl site is back online.

I have only made it to New Mexico once and that was a very short trip through the North corner of the state
However it is a small world for us Amateur Radio ops as you know, and I look forward to
meeting you.

73
Steve
KG5VK
Steven Lott Smith
Tele 318-470-9806
ARRL NTX Section Manager
Please note: My Out Going Email address is LottsPhoto@...
KG5VK@... is forwarded to my Gmail address



On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 7:24 AM <k5lxp@...> wrote:
W5PDY's activities were well covered in the ARRL Letter, which I'd do a search for but as you mention, the site is down for the upgrade. I would say what was most notable about him is he was just a plain nice guy, and he would stop and talk to everyone. As I mentioned above, he was as much an ambassador as a manager. Given what you describe of your activities you are already far and away more than many SM's I've known over the years. Often the only time you saw or heard of them was the perfunctory "ARRL forum" at a hamfest, blathering about League business. It's hard to beat up on any of those in the field organization as it's volunteer, and a huge commitment if you take it seriously. From my perspective it's more about serving League members for their interests and needs, promoting the hobby, and lastly promoting the League. In these days of competing hobbies and interests it is an uphill battle to gain attention but it's possible. I don't think it takes any special activities or methods, once you've licked visibility and accessibility the rest is by the numbers. Assign your PIO to keep your section website fresh so it becomes a focal point of current events and not a static directory page. My SM sends out periodic mass emails but I don't think often enough, I'd like to know more about what's going on in the section so maybe you can look at that.

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM



Re: As a New or even Old Timer.... Do you know who your ARRL Section Manger is? Have you ever met them?

Frank K4FMH
 

“In addition I am doing a virtual Round Table meeting every other month for the Club officers within our Section
as well as a Section Staff meeting.”

Organizing a Club President Council in a Section…meeting monthly by Zoom for < 30 minutes…would yield great benefits, imho. Organizing volunteers is far, far different than management and leadership in an employment situation. How much actual leadership training do SMs get on their ARRL orientation meeting?

73,

Frank
K4FMH


Re: As a New or even Old Timer.... Do you know who your ARRL Section Manger is? Have you ever met them?

Frank K4FMH
 

Hammer==>nail, Mark!

Frank
K4FMH


Re: As a New or even Old Timer.... Do you know who your ARRL Section Manger is? Have you ever met them?

Bob Burns AK9R
 

On 03/28/2022 8:01 PM, Steven Lott Smith KG5VK ARRL NTX SM wrote:
Why, because I would love to learn how to be the Best SM for my Section from those you all point me too.
Thanks for asking the question, Steve.

I'm running for Indiana Section Manager and being the best SM for my section is a concern. I appreciate the answers that others have given. Maybe, I'll get to implement them!

Bob...

ak9r.info <https://ak9r.info/>


Re: As a New or even Old Timer.... Do you know who your ARRL Section Manger is? Have you ever met them?

 

Mark,

The cancelation of HamCom forever was a blow to all of us
It even got the attention of ARRL Headquarters

Yes, we are working towards another Covention of the size the void left
Unfortunaely it will not happen in just a couple of years
HamCom took many years to become what it was

We have a team of Clubs and Section Management Staff members working towards success on this task.

Thank You very much for asking

73
Steve
KG5VK


Re: As a New or even Old Timer.... Do you know who your ARRL Section Manger is? Have you ever met them?

k5lxp@...
 

I was an attendee of Hamcom since the 90's, and I very much miss my travels to that event since it's cancellation.  Hopefully another convention will rise from the ashes, it left a void as far as NM as large cities like Pheonix and Denver haven't had a convention of that size or caliber even if hosting the national ARRL event.

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM

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