Re: contest logs available for download -- background?


Gary Hinson
 

Friends,

 

The US approach to privacy is different to most of the rest of the world.  I specifically mentioned GDPR, the EU General Data Protection Regulation, which applies to personal information on Europeans wherever the information happens to be – including on the Internet and in the US.  Other privacy laws (including the new California Consumer Privacy Act for one) generally embody the privacy principles originally defined by the OECD many moons ago.

 

Anyway, the bottom line is that there MAY be legal implications to publishing contest logs.  Once again, IANAL – just someone with an interest in privacy etc. 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB@home

 

From: ARRL-Contesting@... <ARRL-Contesting@...> On Behalf Of Gilbert Baron
Sent: 21 April 2020 22:11
To: ARRL-Contesting@...
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Contesting] contest logs available for download -- background?

 

AGREE, and ULS and Facebook and ETC ETC ETC.  Does anyone remember the phone books that used to be distributed?

 

Outlook Desktop Gil W0MN

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From: ARRL-Contesting@... <ARRL-Contesting@...> On Behalf Of Rick Blank via groups.arrl.org
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 23:42
To: ARRL-Contesting@...
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Contesting] contest logs available for download -- background?

 

Gary,

     Your full name and address are on QRZ.  There is a picture of you and your dog.  So, I'm not sure why it would matter if it was included in a public contest log.  QRZ is a public website, therefore making your name and address public.  Do a Google search of your call sign and you will see a list of stuff comes up that is also biblically available.

 

73,

Rick,  WB3BSA

 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 20:35, Gary Hinson

<Gary@...> wrote:

I’m not sure that (alone) would hold up under GDPR, Bruce, but it helps that names and addresses are removed.

 

From: ARRL-Contesting@... <ARRL-Contesting@...> On Behalf Of Bruce Horn
Sent: 21 April 2020 08:22
To: ARRL-Contesting <ARRL-Contesting@...>
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Contesting] contest logs available for download -- background?

 

Also, when submitting an ARRL contest log, you agree to the ARRL's rules, which include the following conditions of entry:

 

1.    2.4.All entries become the property of the ARRL.

2.    2.5.Log contents used to determine final score and awards will be available to the public.

 

73 de Bruce, WA7BNM   (bhorn@...)


From: "Gary Hinson" <Gary@...>
To: "ARRL-Contesting" <ARRL-Contesting@...>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 12:34:49 PM
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Contesting] contest logs available for download -- background?

 

Personally I don’t really care if my contest logs are published but I wonder about the legality of disclosing personal information – specifically the operator’s name and address from the Cabrillo – without their express permission, for a stated and legitimate purpose.  Under GDPR, unilaterally publishing complete contest logs seems dubious to me.  

 

As if that’s not enough, individual callsigns may also legally qualify as ‘personal information’ with implications for DXcluster, QRZ.com and so forth … but I am not a lawyer, just a curious ham with an interest in information security, privacy and compliance. 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: ARRL-Contesting@... <ARRL-Contesting@...> On Behalf Of David Siddall
Sent: 21 April 2020 00:42
To: ARRL-Contesting@...
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Contesting] contest logs available for download -- background?

 

Some DXers object to open logs, and I guess their objections go beyond contest logs (which are released only many months after the contest) to include more timely posting of logs such as by some DXpeditions and websites that include Club Log, QRZ logbook, etc. There is a pro/con discussion in the February, 2020 CQ Magazine at pages 93-100.

73, Dave K3ZJ

 

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