DXCC Distant Remotes: a proposal
Dave AA6YQ
First, some relevant facts:
1. For many DXers, DXCC is a lifelong competition. The ARRL encourages this by maintaining and publishing standings <http://www.arrl.org/dxcc-standings> and by annually awarding the "De Soto Cup" <http://www.arrl.org/dxcc-challenge> Nobody likes having the rules changed in the middle of a competition. 2. DXCC is not a level playing field, and never will be. Stations located closer to dense clusters of DXCC entities have an advantage over stations located further away from such clusters. Stations located close to the geomagnetic equator have an advantage over stations located further away. Stations with more effective antennas have an advantage for stations with less effective antennas. Stations with more effective receivers have an advantage over stations with less effective receivers. Stations that can run more output power have an advantage over stations with less output power. 3. Many DXCC rules are effectively unenforceable. There is no way to verify that a DXCC award applicant was the operator who made each submitted QSO, or that the applicant made each submitted QSO from within the same DXCC entity, or that all pertinent government regulations - like RF output power - were obeyed. 4. Short of requiring every amateur transceiver to incorporate a potted GPS subsystem that reports time-and-position information encrypted with the operator's ARRL-issued private key, there is no way to reliably determine the location of the station from which a QSO submitted for DXCC award credit was made. 5. The DXCC award program includes separate categories for QRP and Satellite operation: <http://www.arrl.org/qrp-dxcc> <http://www.arrl.org/dxcc-rules> rule 1.q 6. The ARRL Board of Director's rationale for rejecting the DXAC recommendation on Remote Operating is recounted by then CEO Dave K1ZZ here: <http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QST/This%20Month%20in%20QST/April2015/APRIL%20%20EDITORIAL.pdf> As a DXer, I did not agree with the DXAC's recommendation, and I did not agree with the ARRL Board's action. Technology cannot be suppressed. If remote operation is possible, it will be employed -- whether "DXCC legal" or not. There are valid reasons for an operator wanting to participate in DXCC from more than one geographic location, physically or using remote access technology. However, reaching the Top of the Honor Roll from one physical location with no remote access is significantly more difficult -- and thus more praiseworthy -- than doing so from multiple physical or remotely-accessed locations. Thus my suggested resolution to this issue is for the ARRL to create a new "Single Location" attribute applicable to every existing DXCC award, meaning that all submitted QSOs were made from with 200 km of a single home QTH. I further suggest that this be implemented by designating all DXCC awards issued after the internet became publicly accessible as "Multiple Location". An Operator who has received DXCC awards by submitting QSOs that all complied with the single location criterion could so declare to the ARRL, and receive a "Single Location" endorsement that can be affixed to their award certificate or plaque. Implementing this recommendation would require updating the ARRL's DXCC and LoTW software systems to track the Single/Multiple Location attribute for each submitted QSO. It would require providing a means by which operators could apply for "Single Location" endorsements for awards they've already received. Satisfying these requirements would consume ARRL staff time, which would have to be funded one way or another. This incremental funding should be considered in light of the potential decline in DXCC award revenue and ARRL dues if a less effective solution is chosen. Implementing this recommendation would also create work for the developers of logging applications. I began DXing in California's Silicon Valley after earning my novice ticket there in 1990. In 1997, I relocated to the Boston area at the request of my employer. Thus the #1 Honor Roll plaque I received in 2008 and the Challenge 3000 plaque I received in 2018 would not qualify for a "Single Location" endorsement -- at least not until I re-work, re-confirm, and re-submit QSOs with the 14 entities and 864 entity-bands I only worked while in California. 73, Dave, AA6YQ |
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ED W4POT
If a change is to be made I favor crafting the specific wording concerning a radius around "a single location" rather than "a home location".
The reasons for this are that many younger folks don't own their own homes nor do they expect to own one due to economic reasons. Like it or not some have a negative opinion of home ownership that stems from generational differences. While it may be hard for the typical ham to understand, spend some time Googleing "OK Boomer" to learn about this. The next reason is that if the rule change is really about addressing propagation advantages based on geographic location changes, then what does it matter if the location is your home or the location of a club station, or even a distant remote station if ALL of the contacts for an award were made from location(s) that fit into the single point and associated radius specification? |
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Donald Ross <N12614@...>
How about adding a new DXCC classification for mobile / portable / remote operations? Start it from scratch as of the date of ratification / approval so that everyone is on the same level playing ground. No contacts made prior to the start date count towards the new classification.
Think of the possible increase in operations in this solar minimum as everyone starts from scratch and scrambles to get the first 100. We might get some of the old timers showing what they can do when it’s all new and they’re not waiting for the one or two entities that they now need.
Think of the elmer-ing as we relearn how to bond vehicles; hunt down interference; make our mobile systems more efficient.
Just a thought.
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If the goal is to get more hams to participate in DXing and applying for awards, whether to compete against others or toward their own personal best, it seems the best way to accomplish that would be to make the program more inclusive. Restrictions are, by their nature, exclusive. Many reasons have been laid out in these threads as to how a distance restriction would severely limit award eligibility for some hams, thereby discouraging them from participating. Creating new DXCC classifications would promote inclusion for those without the real estate or income to build an expensive home station. There could also be some new, interesting classes, such as QRP. Contests have different station classes, but DXCC wouldn't need nearly as many. Of course, this would necessitate an overhaul of the awards program and LoTW, which would come with additional cost. There will always be some who will try to circumvent the rules to gain advantage, but everyone who earns an award honestly can be justifiably proud of their accomplishment.
The discussion around this proposal needs to be done carefully so as to not come across as a bunch of affluent old hams looking to protect the prestige of their award certificates against the advancement of technology and a new generation. This is somewhat reminiscent of some hams disparaging others who build their DXCC totals using FT8 ("it's not real ham radio"). If you want to limit participation to those who have means, for the sake of the prestige of the award, then add restrictions. If looking to create more opportunities for hams in different circumstances to participate, create some award classifications so they can play too. I'm a relatively new ham, licensed three and a half years, and DXing is my favorite part of the hobby. I have almost 230 DXCCs confirmed using only wire antennas and 100 or fewer watts from my home station. Most have been digital contacts, but I have also achieved DXCC for phone and CW. CW is my favorite! I am quite happy having achieved those totals at the bottom of a solar cycle, but I'm aware that ATNOs will be fewer and farther between. I have some property for wire antennas, but my station will always be modest in comparison to most serious DXers, and I'm not likely to use a remote station. I have only recently added a 500W amp, and plan on installing a hexbeam in the coming months. So, I feel like I have nothing to gain or lose personally from a 200km location restriction. I am basing my opinion on discussions with other new hams who indicated they are interested in DXing but do not feel they would be very successful due to their current living arrangements or income. Dan, N1ADM |
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Don,
I like your rhinking. More operations from more venues is good for activity, mentorship and skill development.
Here are some other thoughts that I don't think posted previously regarding awards and plaques.
Wayne,
I know what folks have stated here, but I've heard some pretty competitive comments over the years regarding relative positions on the Honor Role. Even if only a personal goal, then it is a form of competition.
Warning: The balance of this is to explain my perspective and not a critique of the values or experiences of others. We all have our journeys.
I don't know about putting up plaques. While I have a few for VHF contests, one for ARRL Hudson Division Technical Achievement, a pile more for mentorship and tecnical excellence in Scouting and at work, and a bunch for granted patents, I don't put them up on my walls and shelves. They remain in their boxes, but maybe they should be seen by those who visit?
The people and experiences that made them all possible are more important treasures to me. In almost 45 years since I was first licensed, I've had more blessings from my interest in Amateur Radio than most could possibly imagine - real blessings of a wonderful wife, a bunch of friends, a career in the one of the most interesting businesses of the last 100+ years, and the ability to learn, contribute and share every day.
So let's put all this into perspective and figure out a set of rules that encourage operators to operate and participate in our wonderful hobby.
73,
Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:00 PM -0500, "Donald Ross via Groups.Arrl.Org" <N12614=aol.com@...> wrote:
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Folks; This thread is long and interesting. I have never tried remote operation because I have always had mixed emotions on it and the jury always seemed to be out. To add to the fodder:
Just questions in the back of my mind, with no answers on my part. We already know the horse is out of the barn, or the fox is in the chicken coop so to speak, however, could the rules be changed in such a manner that what is done is done, and now and forever more the rules will be thus? If they are changed?
Is DXCC competitive, or just a “measuring stick”? It would be a shame to see others have to start over, possibly more than once due to life changes. It can be a difficult award, or easy award, from the viewpoint of propagation. We know technology moves forward and changes are sometimes hard to swallow.
It should however, remain the award by which all others are judged, and full of integrity.
Just my thoughts for whatever they are worth. 73, Dale H. Cole K8TS
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Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 5:43 PM To: arrl-awards@... Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] DXCC Distant Remotes: a proposal
Don, I like your rhinking. More operations from more venues is good for activity, mentorship and skill development. Here are some other thoughts that I don't think posted previously regarding awards and plaques. Wayne, I know what folks have stated here, but I've heard some pretty competitive comments over the years regarding relative positions on the Honor Role. Even if only a personal goal, then it is a form of competition. Warning: The balance of this is to explain my perspective and not a critique of the values or experiences of others. We all have our journeys. I don't know about putting up plaques. While I have a few for VHF contests, one for ARRL Hudson Division Technical Achievement, a pile more for mentorship and tecnical excellence in Scouting and at work, and a bunch for granted patents, I don't put them up on my walls and shelves. They remain in their boxes, but maybe they should be seen by those who visit? The people and experiences that made them all possible are more important treasures to me. In almost 45 years since I was first licensed, I've had more blessings from my interest in Amateur Radio than most could possibly imagine - real blessings of a wonderful wife, a bunch of friends, a career in the one of the most interesting businesses of the last 100+ years, and the ability to learn, contribute and share every day. So let's put all this into perspective and figure out a set of rules that encourage operators to operate and participate in our wonderful hobby. 73, Gordon Beattie, W2TTT On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:00 PM -0500, "Donald Ross via Groups.Arrl.Org" <N12614=aol.com@...> wrote:
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