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I know that ARRL folks read this forum so I wanted to express my extreme disappointment in the "plaque" I purchased for my recent Triple Play award. It is advertised on ARRL.org as "laminated", but it's simply attached to the back with a plastic hook glued to it.
I was going to obtain a REAL wood plaque base ($14 on etsy.com) to mount it on, but first the plastic hook on the back would need to go. Guess what? The hook is GLUED DIRECTLY TO THE CERTIFICATE, not plexiglas, so removing it destroys the award.
Fortunately I saw what was happening before the hook was completely removed, but I still have a nice large scar on the certificate.
You got me this time, ARRL, but it won't happen again.
Rick Harrington, N0VT
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ARRL has, in my opinion, watered down the Awards program.
Until the members rise up and speak out, the program will suffer.
…and the value of those awards will diminish.
Val
N4RJ
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From: Rick NoVT
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 1:45 PM
To: ARRL-Awards@...
Subject: [ARRL-Awards] Disappointed in Triple Play "plaque"
I know that ARRL folks read this forum so I wanted to express my extreme disappointment in the "plaque" I purchased for my recent Triple Play award. It is advertised on ARRL.org as "laminated", but it's simply attached to the back with
a plastic hook glued to it.
I was going to obtain a REAL wood plaque base ($14 on etsy.com) to mount it on, but first the plastic hook on the back would need to go. Guess what? The hook is GLUED DIRECTLY TO THE CERTIFICATE, not plexiglas, so removing it destroys the award.
Fortunately I saw what was happening before the hook was completely removed, but I still have a nice large scar on the certificate.
You got me this time, ARRL, but it won't happen again.
Rick Harrington, N0VT
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Rick N0VT,
Simply contact the ARRL Awards desk and for a New Certificate and explain why
I am sure they will accommodate your requests
and in the future I recommend you reach out to your Section Manager and or Division Director
as I am sure they would help you rectify this.
Steve
KG5VK
ARRL NTX Section Manager
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K8TS
You lucky guy…. All I got was a paper certificate. Looks like it came off a standard color printer. Does not even fit my frame (that I had to buy) correctly. With all due respect to the people who have to administer these awards, someone from above is dictating an awards program that is headed for the sewer. I feel sorry for the people having to take the heat, but we work hard for these awards, only to get not more than a .pdf for them. I have already expressed my feelings to my director over a year ago, he gave them sources to restore the dignity of the plaques. They said they would “take a look at it”……. HA! Nobody cares is the opinion I get Dale Cole K8TS Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Steven Lott Smith KG5VK ARRL NTX SMSent: Monday, July 26, 2021 2:07 PM To: ARRL-Awards@...Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Disappointed in Triple Play "plaque" Rick N0VT,
Simply contact the ARRL Awards desk and for a New Certificate and explain why
I am sure they will accommodate your requests
and in the future I recommend you reach out to your Section Manager and or Division Director
as I am sure they would help you rectify this.
Steve
KG5VK ARRL NTX Section Manager
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Good afternoon all. These are awards with which I am only vaguely familiar.
My 5 band DXCC and DX Challenge plaques are beautiful but did come at
a cost. And it was substantial. Is the same true here or is it closer to my original DXCC certificate from the 70's which came rolled up in a tube?
Best, Steve, NN4T
On 07/26/2021 1:42 PM K8TS <dalecole3502@...> wrote:
You lucky guy….
All I got was a paper certificate. Looks like it came off a standard color printer. Does not even fit my frame (that I had to buy) correctly.
With all due respect to the people who have to administer these awards, someone from above is dictating an awards program that is headed for the sewer.
I feel sorry for the people having to take the heat, but we work hard for these awards, only to get not more than a .pdf for them.
I have already expressed my feelings to my director over a year ago, he gave them sources to restore the dignity of the plaques.
They said they would “take a look at it”……. HA!
Nobody cares is the opinion I get
Dale Cole K8TS
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Rick N0VT,
Simply contact the ARRL Awards desk and for a New Certificate and explain why
I am sure they will accommodate your requests
and in the future I recommend you reach out to your Section Manager and or Division Director
as I am sure they would help you rectify this.
Steve
KG5VK
ARRL NTX Section Manager
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Ria, N2RJ
We have heard the members loud and clear. Senior management at HQ are currently in the process of reviewing the awards with an eye toward making them better quality.
The exact changes I cannot share right now but as a recent recipient of triple play myself I agree that we can do a lot better.
73 Ria N2RJ
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:45 PM Rick NoVT < N0VT@...> wrote: I know that ARRL folks read this forum so I wanted to express my extreme disappointment in the "plaque" I purchased for my recent Triple Play award. It is advertised on ARRL.org as "laminated", but it's simply attached to the back with a plastic hook glued to it.
I was going to obtain a REAL wood plaque base ($14 on etsy.com) to mount it on, but first the plastic hook on the back would need to go. Guess what? The hook is GLUED DIRECTLY TO THE CERTIFICATE, not plexiglas, so removing it destroys the award.
Fortunately I saw what was happening before the hook was completely removed, but I still have a nice large scar on the certificate.
You got me this time, ARRL, but it won't happen again.
Rick Harrington, N0VT
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K8TS
Steve; If you will look on the ARRL site, you will find that the 5BDXCC award in now a certificate. The 5BDXCC “Plaque” is now a piece of plexiglass, which in fact looks almost identical to the certificate. The wood plaque is gone. Your choice, plastic or paper the look the same. For the $60.00(?) for the plaque you can get the $12.00 certificate, and buy a $10.00 plexiglass frame at Wally World and save $40.00. My understanding is the plexiglass is not numbered (I could be wrong on this). Challenge “Plaque” is plastic also. I received no pin for my 5BDXCC. Saw none offered. Not a happy camper. Dale K8TS ARRL :: Contesting & DXCC Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Steven R Daniel, D.D.S.Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 2:48 PM To: ARRL-Awards@...Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Disappointed in Triple Play "plaque" Good afternoon all. These are awards with which I am only vaguely familiar. My 5 band DXCC and DX Challenge plaques are beautiful but did come at a cost. And it was substantial. Is the same true here or is it closer to my original DXCC certificate from the 70's which came rolled up in a tube? On 07/26/2021 1:42 PM K8TS <dalecole3502@...> wrote: You lucky guy…. All I got was a paper certificate. Looks like it came off a standard color printer. Does not even fit my frame (that I had to buy) correctly. With all due respect to the people who have to administer these awards, someone from above is dictating an awards program that is headed for the sewer. I feel sorry for the people having to take the heat, but we work hard for these awards, only to get not more than a .pdf for them. I have already expressed my feelings to my director over a year ago, he gave them sources to restore the dignity of the plaques. They said they would “take a look at it”……. HA! Nobody cares is the opinion I get Dale Cole K8TS Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Rick N0VT,
Simply contact the ARRL Awards desk and for a New Certificate and explain why
I am sure they will accommodate your requests
and in the future I recommend you reach out to your Section Manager and or Division Director
as I am sure they would help you rectify this.
Steve
KG5VK ARRL NTX Section Manager
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"
My understanding is the plexiglass is not numbered (I could be wrong on this)"
Neither of my 5BDXCC or Challenge "plaques" are numbered.
Your statement is accurate, or at least was, in case they have started numbering them again.
Steve; If you will look on the ARRL site, you will find that the 5BDXCC award in now a certificate. The 5BDXCC “Plaque” is now a piece of plexiglass, which in fact looks almost identical to the certificate. The wood plaque is gone. Your choice, plastic or paper the look the same. For the $60.00(?) for the plaque you can get the $12.00 certificate, and buy a $10.00 plexiglass frame at Wally World and save $40.00. My understanding is the plexiglass is not numbered (I could be wrong on this). Challenge “Plaque” is plastic also. I received no pin for my 5BDXCC. Saw none offered. Not a happy camper. Dale K8TS ARRL :: Contesting & DXCC Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Good afternoon all. These are awards with which I am only vaguely familiar. My 5 band DXCC and DX Challenge plaques are beautiful but did come at a cost. And it was substantial. Is the same true here or is it closer to my original DXCC certificate from the 70's which came rolled up in a tube? You lucky guy…. All I got was a paper certificate. Looks like it came off a standard color printer. Does not even fit my frame (that I had to buy) correctly. With all due respect to the people who have to administer these awards, someone from above is dictating an awards program that is headed for the sewer. I feel sorry for the people having to take the heat, but we work hard for these awards, only to get not more than a .pdf for them. I have already expressed my feelings to my director over a year ago, he gave them sources to restore the dignity of the plaques. They said they would “take a look at it”……. HA! Nobody cares is the opinion I get Dale Cole K8TS Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Rick N0VT,
Simply contact the ARRL Awards desk and for a New Certificate and explain why
I am sure they will accommodate your requests
and in the future I recommend you reach out to your Section Manager and or Division Director
as I am sure they would help you rectify this.
Steve
KG5VK ARRL NTX Section Manager
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K8TS
Ria; Awards said they were “reviewing it” over a year ago. (April 9th, 2020 to be exact)! How many layers of management does it have to be reviewed by? I will not hide the fact that this is something I am more than upset about. There was some shabby decision making when the plaques were changed WITHOUT consulting the membership. Forever what reason they changed they could have at least made the plaque different than the certificate. I have also seen where the endorsement stickers (yes stickers folks) have even changed design in mid-stream. Dale K8TS Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Ria, N2RJSent: Monday, July 26, 2021 3:11 PM To: ARRL-Awards@...Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Disappointed in Triple Play "plaque" We have heard the members loud and clear. Senior management at HQ are currently in the process of reviewing the awards with an eye toward making them better quality. The exact changes I cannot share right now but as a recent recipient of triple play myself I agree that we can do a lot better. On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:45 PM Rick NoVT <N0VT@...> wrote: I know that ARRL folks read this forum so I wanted to express my extreme disappointment in the "plaque" I purchased for my recent Triple Play award. It is advertised on ARRL.org as "laminated", but it's simply attached to the back with a plastic hook glued to it.
I was going to obtain a REAL wood plaque base ($14 on etsy.com) to mount it on, but first the plastic hook on the back would need to go. Guess what? The hook is GLUED DIRECTLY TO THE CERTIFICATE, not plexiglas, so removing it destroys the award.
Fortunately I saw what was happening before the hook was completely removed, but I still have a nice large scar on the certificate.
You got me this time, ARRL, but it won't happen again.
Rick Harrington, N0VT
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Ria, N2RJ
I think you meant April 2021 and not April 2020. Staff was not in the building in April 2020.
And you are right - it was changed by headquarters without member input. Now we are reversing that based on member input.
I will not go into further details other than there is new management in that department.
73 Ria N2RJ
Ria; Awards said they were “reviewing it” over a year ago. (April 9th, 2020 to be exact)! How many layers of management does it have to be reviewed by? I will not hide the fact that this is something I am more than upset about. There was some shabby decision making when the plaques were changed WITHOUT consulting the membership. Forever what reason they changed they could have at least made the plaque different than the certificate. I have also seen where the endorsement stickers (yes stickers folks) have even changed design in mid-stream. Dale K8TS Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ria, N2RJ
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 3:11 PM
To: ARRL-Awards@...
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Disappointed in Triple Play "plaque" We have heard the members loud and clear. Senior management at HQ are currently in the process of reviewing the awards with an eye toward making them better quality. The exact changes I cannot share right now but as a recent recipient of triple play myself I agree that we can do a lot better. On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:45 PM Rick NoVT <N0VT@...> wrote: I know that ARRL folks read this forum so I wanted to express my extreme disappointment in the "plaque" I purchased for my recent Triple Play award. It is advertised on ARRL.org as "laminated", but it's simply attached to the back with a plastic hook glued to it.
I was going to obtain a REAL wood plaque base ($14 on etsy.com) to mount it on, but first the plastic hook on the back would need to go. Guess what? The hook is GLUED DIRECTLY TO THE CERTIFICATE, not plexiglas, so removing it destroys the award.
Fortunately I saw what was happening before the hook was completely removed, but I still have a nice large scar on the certificate.
You got me this time, ARRL, but it won't happen again.
Rick Harrington, N0VT
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I have the old style DXCC plaques and the old style DX Challenge plaque. Made out of wood. If I remember correctly I had to pay for these. So I can't understand why the League needed to change these, or any of the award plaques. I have read the last few years of BOD minutes and I do not recall this being discussed. I may be wrong about that though.
73
Bruce NJ3K
On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 15:25:51 -0400, "K8TS" <dalecole3502@...> wrote:
Ria;
Awards said they were "reviewing it" over a year ago. (April 9th, 2020 to be exact)!
How many layers of management does it have to be reviewed by?
I will not hide the fact that this is something I am more than upset about.
There was some shabby decision making when the plaques were changed WITHOUT consulting the membership.
Forever what reason they changed they could have at least made the plaque different than the certificate.
I have also seen where the endorsement stickers (yes stickers folks) have even changed design in mid-stream.
Dale K8TS
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Ria, N2RJ
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 3:11 PM
To: ARRL-Awards@...
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Disappointed in Triple Play "plaque"
We have heard the members loud and clear. Senior management at HQ are currently in the process of reviewing the awards with an eye toward making them better quality.
The exact changes I cannot share right now but as a recent recipient of triple play myself I agree that we can do a lot better.
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:45 PM Rick NoVT <N0VT@...> wrote:
I know that ARRL folks read this forum so I wanted to express my extreme disappointment in the "plaque" I purchased for my recent Triple Play award. It is advertised on ARRL.org as "laminated", but it's simply attached to the back with a plastic hook glued to it.
I was going to obtain a REAL wood plaque base ($14 on etsy.com) to mount it on, but first the plastic hook on the back would need to go. Guess what? The hook is GLUED DIRECTLY TO THE CERTIFICATE, not plexiglas, so removing it destroys the award.
Fortunately I saw what was happening before the hook was completely removed, but I still have a nice large scar on the certificate.
You got me this time, ARRL, but it won't happen again.
Rick Harrington, N0VT
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Ria, Thank you! 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.netARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
On 7/26/21 12:11 PM, Ria, N2RJ wrote: We have heard the members loud and clear. Senior management at HQ are currently in the process of reviewing the awards with an eye toward making them better quality.
The exact changes I cannot share right now but as a recent recipient of triple play myself I agree that we can do a lot better.
73
Ria
N2RJ
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:45 PM Rick NoVT <N0VT@... <mailto:N0VT@...>> wrote:
I know that ARRL folks read this forum so I wanted to express my
extreme disappointment in the "plaque" I purchased for my recent
Triple Play award. It is advertised on ARRL.org as "laminated", but
it's simply attached to the back with a plastic hook glued to it.
I was going to obtain a REAL wood plaque base ($14 on etsy.com
<http://etsy.com>) to mount it on, but first the plastic hook on the
back would need to go. Guess what? The hook is GLUED DIRECTLY TO
THE CERTIFICATE, not plexiglas, so removing it destroys the award.
Fortunately I saw what was happening before the hook was completely
removed, but I still have a nice large scar on the certificate.
You got me this time, ARRL, but it won't happen again.
Rick Harrington, N0VT
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Gilbert Baron
Yes, VERY disappointed in all the new award verifications. Not fair to those that sat down to get the award, especially when it was done without consultation. My only consolation is that I got Life Membership MANY MANY years ago and did not accept online magazines only. Costing them a bundle. Outlook Laptop Gil W0MN Hierro candente, batir de repente 44.08226N 92.51265W EN34rb
From: ARRL-Awards@... <ARRL-Awards@...> On Behalf Of K8TS Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 14:26 To: ARRL-Awards@... Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Disappointed in Triple Play "plaque" Ria; Awards said they were “reviewing it” over a year ago. (April 9th, 2020 to be exact)! How many layers of management does it have to be reviewed by? I will not hide the fact that this is something I am more than upset about. There was some shabby decision making when the plaques were changed WITHOUT consulting the membership. Forever what reason they changed they could have at least made the plaque different than the certificate. I have also seen where the endorsement stickers (yes stickers folks) have even changed design in mid-stream. Dale K8TS Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ria, N2RJ
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 3:11 PM
To: ARRL-Awards@...
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Disappointed in Triple Play "plaque" We have heard the members loud and clear. Senior management at HQ are currently in the process of reviewing the awards with an eye toward making them better quality. The exact changes I cannot share right now but as a recent recipient of triple play myself I agree that we can do a lot better. On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:45 PM Rick NoVT <N0VT@...> wrote: I know that ARRL folks read this forum so I wanted to express my extreme disappointment in the "plaque" I purchased for my recent Triple Play award. It is advertised on ARRL.org as "laminated", but it's simply attached to the back with a plastic hook glued to it.
I was going to obtain a REAL wood plaque base ($14 on etsy.com) to mount it on, but first the plastic hook on the back would need to go. Guess what? The hook is GLUED DIRECTLY TO THE CERTIFICATE, not plexiglas, so removing it destroys the award.
Fortunately I saw what was happening before the hook was completely removed, but I still have a nice large scar on the certificate.
You got me this time, ARRL, but it won't happen again.
Rick Harrington, N0VT
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Steven Rutledge <steven.t.rutledge@...>
Thank you Ria as always for engaging with the membership.
Steve, N4JQQ, DXAC, Delta
On 7/26/2021 2:11 PM, Ria, N2RJ wrote:
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We have heard the members loud and clear. Senior
management at HQ are currently in the process of reviewing the
awards with an eye toward making them better quality.
The exact changes I cannot share right now but
as a recent recipient of triple play myself I agree that we
can do a lot better.
73
Ria
N2RJ
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at
1:45 PM Rick NoVT < N0VT@...>
wrote:
I know
that ARRL folks read this forum so I wanted to express my
extreme disappointment in the "plaque" I purchased for my
recent Triple Play award. It is advertised on ARRL.org as
"laminated", but it's simply attached to the back with a
plastic hook glued to it.
I was going to obtain a REAL wood plaque base ($14 on etsy.com) to mount it on, but
first the plastic hook on the back would need to go.
Guess what? The hook is GLUED DIRECTLY TO THE
CERTIFICATE, not plexiglas, so removing it destroys the
award.
Fortunately I saw what was happening before the hook was
completely removed, but I still have a nice large scar on
the certificate.
You got me this time, ARRL, but it won't happen again.
Rick Harrington, N0VT
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K8TS
I am sure Dale Williams WA8EFK, still has records of emails sent and received by himself, the awards department, and myself during this period. Awards said this was the very last one of the wooden plaques and that they had found it somewhere. The wood is scared on the sides. They said it would be “reviewed” at the time these exchanges took place. You can plainly see the dates, and as I recall them saying they were rotating shifts for those who could not work remote. As far as I am concerned, this subject is closed. Just sorry the “old guard” could not be upfront with the members. Dale K8TS Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Ria, N2RJSent: Monday, July 26, 2021 3:54 PM To: ARRL-Awards@...Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Disappointed in Triple Play "plaque" I think you meant April 2021 and not April 2020. Staff was not in the building in April 2020. And you are right - it was changed by headquarters without member input. Now we are reversing that based on member input. I will not go into further details other than there is new management in that department. Ria; Awards said they were “reviewing it” over a year ago. (April 9th, 2020 to be exact)! How many layers of management does it have to be reviewed by? I will not hide the fact that this is something I am more than upset about. There was some shabby decision making when the plaques were changed WITHOUT consulting the membership. Forever what reason they changed they could have at least made the plaque different than the certificate. I have also seen where the endorsement stickers (yes stickers folks) have even changed design in mid-stream. Dale K8TS Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ria, N2RJ
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 3:11 PM
To: ARRL-Awards@...
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Disappointed in Triple Play "plaque" We have heard the members loud and clear. Senior management at HQ are currently in the process of reviewing the awards with an eye toward making them better quality. The exact changes I cannot share right now but as a recent recipient of triple play myself I agree that we can do a lot better. On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:45 PM Rick NoVT <N0VT@...> wrote: I know that ARRL folks read this forum so I wanted to express my extreme disappointment in the "plaque" I purchased for my recent Triple Play award. It is advertised on ARRL.org as "laminated", but it's simply attached to the back with a plastic hook glued to it.
I was going to obtain a REAL wood plaque base ($14 on etsy.com) to mount it on, but first the plastic hook on the back would need to go. Guess what? The hook is GLUED DIRECTLY TO THE CERTIFICATE, not plexiglas, so removing it destroys the award.
Fortunately I saw what was happening before the hook was completely removed, but I still have a nice large scar on the certificate.
You got me this time, ARRL, but it won't happen again.
Rick Harrington, N0VT
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Skip
Herein lies the fundamental problem ... this
and "ARRL Contesting" were billed as "on-line discussion groups"
with HQ offices. Ria is the only ARRL rep who frequents these
lists, and the various HQ offices [Awards is but one] do not, or
if they do, they lurk, don't speak, and apparently don't act on
what they see. If things change as a result of member input, even
glacially, Ria gets all the credit, at least in my notebook. If
we elected our Board of Directors at large, as I believe we should
two decades into the 21st century, I'd cast my ballot for her in a
heartbeat.
"Contact your Director," a mantra we all hear, is perpetuating the
long-standing problem that, "What happens in Newington stays in
Newington." We elect our Board to govern the Corporation, not to
fix operational problems. Part of governance is employing the
right leader. After two seriously failed attempts, a decade later
I think they have gotten it right, and I believe change will
happen. The pace just needs to be picked up dramatically. Having
the Awards Department active on this discussion group would be a
huge improvement.
73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
On 7/26/2021 12:45 PM, Ria, N2RJ wrote:
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I think you meant April 2021 and not April 2020.
Staff was not in the building in April 2020.
And you are right - it was changed by headquarters
without member input. Now we are reversing that based on member
input.
I will not go into further details other than
there is new management in that department.
73
Ria
N2RJ
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This type of group is very
common place in online gaming to allow people to vent with very
little real interaction from the gaming company or people that can
actually do anything. Most people tire of it and move on to other
games or just stop providing feedback.
I agree where are the other directors? Do they care? Where it
the ARRL staff? Do they care? Do they just not have time to
look? The list was dead for weeks, maybe they were never told to
look or that this place exists?
W0MU
On 7/26/2021 5:46 PM, Skip wrote:
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Herein lies the fundamental problem ... this
and "ARRL Contesting" were billed as "on-line discussion groups"
with HQ offices. Ria is the only ARRL rep who frequents these
lists, and the various HQ offices [Awards is but one] do not, or
if they do, they lurk, don't speak, and apparently don't act on
what they see. If things change as a result of member input,
even glacially, Ria gets all the credit, at least in my
notebook. If we elected our Board of Directors at large, as I
believe we should two decades into the 21st century, I'd cast my
ballot for her in a heartbeat.
"Contact your Director," a mantra we all hear, is perpetuating
the long-standing problem that, "What happens in Newington stays
in Newington." We elect our Board to govern the Corporation,
not to fix operational problems. Part of governance is
employing the right leader. After two seriously failed
attempts, a decade later I think they have gotten it right, and
I believe change will happen. The pace just needs to be picked
up dramatically. Having the Awards Department active on this
discussion group would be a huge improvement.
73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
On 7/26/2021 12:45 PM, Ria, N2RJ
wrote:
I think you meant April 2021 and not April
2020. Staff was not in the building in April 2020.
And you are right - it was changed by
headquarters without member input. Now we are reversing that
based on member input.
I will not go into further details other than
there is new management in that department.
73
Ria
N2RJ
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"Ria is the only ARRL rep who frequents these lists"
Wow I guess I need NOT come back or join the conversations here
Cheers!
Steve
KG5VK
ARRL NTX SM
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Ria, N2RJ
Steve KG5VK is also here. He is a section manager.
73 Ria N2RJ
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 7:46 PM Skip < k6dgw@...> wrote:
Herein lies the fundamental problem ... this
and "ARRL Contesting" were billed as "on-line discussion groups"
with HQ offices. Ria is the only ARRL rep who frequents these
lists, and the various HQ offices [Awards is but one] do not, or
if they do, they lurk, don't speak, and apparently don't act on
what they see. If things change as a result of member input, even
glacially, Ria gets all the credit, at least in my notebook. If
we elected our Board of Directors at large, as I believe we should
two decades into the 21st century, I'd cast my ballot for her in a
heartbeat.
"Contact your Director," a mantra we all hear, is perpetuating the
long-standing problem that, "What happens in Newington stays in
Newington." We elect our Board to govern the Corporation, not to
fix operational problems. Part of governance is employing the
right leader. After two seriously failed attempts, a decade later
I think they have gotten it right, and I believe change will
happen. The pace just needs to be picked up dramatically. Having
the Awards Department active on this discussion group would be a
huge improvement.
73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
On 7/26/2021 12:45 PM, Ria, N2RJ wrote:
I think you meant April 2021 and not April 2020.
Staff was not in the building in April 2020.
And you are right - it was changed by headquarters
without member input. Now we are reversing that based on member
input.
I will not go into further details other than
there is new management in that department.
73
Ria
N2RJ
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There are other ARRL representatives on the list, just by the time I receive and read the messages Ria typically has already responded.
As for not having very many ARRL representatives here I have to put part of the blame on whoever started the list. I can't speak for others but I never received an invite to join the list when I became a director. Nor was I made aware the purpose of the list is to have an exchange with HQ which would have given me reason to join. It was some time after becoming a director that I learned of this and joined the list.
But then it is pretty easy to start a list, claim to have contact with a group of individuals that most likely were not invited and then accuse them of various things.
Bill
AC0W
Dakota Division Director
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