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Tony VA7TF
Good day,
What is the achievement of an ARRL Award without a Certificate of proof in the shack? I have searched and searched for the benefit of "paying" for an award and not seeing any results except that I paid for an award of what? I must have missed something, not sure what. Please explain if possible. IO am obviously not understanding something. -- Tony, VA7TF VE7ACF |
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Micky Corrow
This was sort of my question a while ago, for the DXCC Challenge and 5BDXCC. How does one obtain these certificates? There is no clear method to get them from the application website? Micky K1XH On 2023-01-31 02:46 PM, Tony VA7TF wrote:
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Tony VA7TF
Hi Micky,
Exactly!
I filed for an award, I filled in my mailing address, contact info and paid $18.00 USD for what I thought I would be getting a certificate in the mail to find that was not the case. I was told (via email) after I questioned it, that it was to pay for an award. WHAT AWARD? And that I would have to pay more for the certificate. That was not described prior me paying $18.00 USD. As far as I am concerned I paid $18.00 for “nothing”
I later did some investigation after “hunting and pecking” on the ARRL LoTW site and came to the conclusion that the $18.00 cost was $0.15 per contact ($15.00), and $3.00 for “administration fee”, a total of $18.00. And now, if I want my VUCC 100 grid square certificate, it’ll cost me another $38.00 USD for a total of $56.00 USD. ???? $56.00 USD for an 8 x 10 paper certificate by mail? Say what?
Regards,
Tony VA7TF VE7ACF
From: Micky Corrow via groups.arrl.org
Sent: January 31, 2023 12:04 PM To: ARRL-Awards@... Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Awards without a certificate
This was sort of my question a while ago, for the DXCC Challenge and 5BDXCC. How does one obtain these certificates? There is no clear method to get them from the application website? Micky K1XH
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Dave (NK7Z) <dave@...>
Tony,
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While I agree with you that the cost of the award certs is excessive, (the cost does help fund LoTW, and the ARRL in general, but still seems a bit high). Respectfully, it is your responsibility know what you are paying for, in advance... Your carping about your lack of knowledge does nothing to solve the excessive fee issue, and detracts from the actual issue of cost. I just had a friend who took all of 10 minutes to gather the needed information to fill out his DXCC cert. He decided to not get it based on the cost, but he did discover what the cost was with little effort. I suspect the ARRL would make more money by reducing the cost of all awards, to around 30 or 35 bucks, I expect this would increase the uptake and hence bring in more money, but that is a guess on my part. The ARRL may have already done that homework. However-- $56.00 seems excessive to me, and at least to you, and my friend. 73, Dave, https://www.nk7z.net On 1/31/23 12:18, Tony VA7TF wrote:
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They do it because they can and more importantly as a means to support the league activity such as LotW and other things.
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Outlook LT Gil W0MN Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb -----Original Message-----
From: ARRL-Awards@... <ARRL-Awards@...> On Behalf Of Dave (NK7Z) Sent: 31 January 2023 16:30 To: ARRL-Awards@... Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Awards without a certificate Tony, While I agree with you that the cost of the award certs is excessive, (the cost does help fund LoTW, and the ARRL in general, but still seems a bit high). Respectfully, it is your responsibility know what you are paying for, in advance... Your carping about your lack of knowledge does nothing to solve the excessive fee issue, and detracts from the actual issue of cost. I just had a friend who took all of 10 minutes to gather the needed information to fill out his DXCC cert. He decided to not get it based on the cost, but he did discover what the cost was with little effort. I suspect the ARRL would make more money by reducing the cost of all awards, to around 30 or 35 bucks, I expect this would increase the uptake and hence bring in more money, but that is a guess on my part. The ARRL may have already done that homework. However-- $56.00 seems excessive to me, and at least to you, and my friend. 73, Dave, https://www.nk7z.net On 1/31/23 12:18, Tony VA7TF wrote: Hi Micky, |
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With each "credit" you pay .15 to upload to your LoTW account. As you go through the application process, when you obtain the required number of credits for an award, you will be offered the option to obtain that award certificate by checking a little box. Most award certificates are 12.00 For some awards the prices can be ghastly, others not so gut wrenching. Over the weekend I uploaded a mixed bag of about 100 qsos which did put me past the magic number of 100 on one band and several additional credits on others. I did not opt for the certificate, but the total came to just over $20 including the administrative fee and the qso credits. I can always go back and file another application for the paperwork if I so choose. You will get a DXCC credit slip for what you have earned in the mail probably in a couple of weeks.
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LoTW does have some inadequacies, but the price of using it is far better than the price of having your cards manually checked at HQ and shipped back to you. Many of us lived on pins and needles awaiting the return of a "rare" card, hoping the Post Office did not lose or destroy it. That cost of doing it manually would be exorbitant these days. LoTW does need what little money it charges and is far less expensive than what it would be doing it the old way under todays labor costs. Five Band and Challenge in my experience seem to go smoother with the assistance of the DXCC and Awards desks. There are choices of plaques and certificates. Call ARRL and they will help you get straightened out. I don't think (from what I have read) you are in as bad of shape as you think. What award did you file for? I presume you have uploaded the number of credits needed. Congratulations on what you have earned. Dale K8TS -----Original Message-----
From: ARRL-Awards@... <ARRL-Awards@...> On Behalf Of Gilbert Baron Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 6:53 PM To: ARRL-Awards@... Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Awards without a certificate They do it because they can and more importantly as a means to support the league activity such as LotW and other things. Outlook LT Gil W0MN Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb -----Original Message----- From: ARRL-Awards@... <ARRL-Awards@...> On Behalf Of Dave (NK7Z) Sent: 31 January 2023 16:30 To: ARRL-Awards@... Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Awards without a certificate Tony, While I agree with you that the cost of the award certs is excessive, (the cost does help fund LoTW, and the ARRL in general, but still seems a bit high). Respectfully, it is your responsibility know what you are paying for, in advance... Your carping about your lack of knowledge does nothing to solve the excessive fee issue, and detracts from the actual issue of cost. I just had a friend who took all of 10 minutes to gather the needed information to fill out his DXCC cert. He decided to not get it based on the cost, but he did discover what the cost was with little effort. I suspect the ARRL would make more money by reducing the cost of all awards, to around 30 or 35 bucks, I expect this would increase the uptake and hence bring in more money, but that is a guess on my part. The ARRL may have already done that homework. However-- $56.00 seems excessive to me, and at least to you, and my friend. 73, Dave, https://www.nk7z.net On 1/31/23 12:18, Tony VA7TF wrote: Hi Micky, |
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