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The fundemental problem with implementing Remote rules in DXCC

Andreas Junge
 



On Dec 24, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Hugh Valentine <N4RJ@...> wrote:

Perhaps, given current remote capability, the word “Honor” should be dropped from DXCC Honor roll.
 
Let’s vote.
 
Val
 

Now that was neither helpful nor necessary. 

I think this thread has deteriorated into a useless name calling contest.

Can we please move on to some more productive? 

Merry Christmas

73, Andreas, N6NU


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From: Gerry Hull
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 3:22 PM
To: ARRL-Awards@...
Subject: [ARRL-Awards] The fundemental problem with implementing Remote rules in DXCC
 
Implementing a distance limit, any limit, on the location WITHIN a DXCC Entity blatantly disregards 100 years of history with the program.

Since the founding of DXCC, one has been able to operate ANYWHERE within a DXCC entity for credit worked from that entity.

Before remotes, If one had means, one could travel to the opposite coast to work entities they could not work from home.

Technology has lead to the democratization of DXCC.   It's now available to people of limited means, both monetarily and antenna wise.

If someone beats you on the DXCC honor roll because they operated remotely legally, you should not be upset.  You know how they did it, if "how they did it" upsets you.

I'm sure when the same thing happened back in the early days of radio, the hams that "lost out" in the DXCC race due to opposite-coast operation were also very upset.

Simply jealousy.

We have survived many changes in technology over the past 100 years.   DXCC will continue to be a fun and engaging endeavor.

Remote is here to stay, as is FT8.

73,

Gerry W1VE
5BDXCC, none via remote
A very active remote operator from VY1AAA (now QRT) and other remote stations.
   

 
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Hugh Valentine <N4RJ@...>
 

Perhaps, given current remote capability, the word “Honor” should be dropped from DXCC Honor roll.

 

Let’s vote.

 

Val

 

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From: Gerry Hull
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 3:22 PM
To: ARRL-Awards@...
Subject: [ARRL-Awards] The fundemental problem with implementing Remote rules in DXCC

 

Implementing a distance limit, any limit, on the location WITHIN a DXCC Entity blatantly disregards 100 years of history with the program.

Since the founding of DXCC, one has been able to operate ANYWHERE within a DXCC entity for credit worked from that entity.

Before remotes, If one had means, one could travel to the opposite coast to work entities they could not work from home.

Technology has lead to the democratization of DXCC.   It's now available to people of limited means, both monetarily and antenna wise.

If someone beats you on the DXCC honor roll because they operated remotely legally, you should not be upset.  You know how they did it, if "how they did it" upsets you.

I'm sure when the same thing happened back in the early days of radio, the hams that "lost out" in the DXCC race due to opposite-coast operation were also very upset.

Simply jealousy.

We have survived many changes in technology over the past 100 years.   DXCC will continue to be a fun and engaging endeavor.

Remote is here to stay, as is FT8.

73,

Gerry W1VE
5BDXCC, none via remote
A very active remote operator from VY1AAA (now QRT) and other remote stations.
  

 

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bmanning
 

Gary

March 1956 page 74 QST Rule 9. All stations must be contacted from the same call area, where such call areas exists, or from the same country in cases where there are no call areas. One exception is allowed to this rule; where a station is moved from one call area to another or from one country to another to another, all contacts must be made from within a radius of 150 miles of the initial location.

I do not know when this was changed but at some point in time it changed to anywhere within the DXCC entity73

 Bruce NJ3K

On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 12:22:19 -0800, "Gerry Hull" <gerry@...> wrote:

Implementing a distance limit, any limit, on the location WITHIN a DXCC Entity blatantly disregards 100 years of history with the program.

Since the founding of DXCC, one has been able to operate ANYWHERE within a DXCC entity for credit worked from that entity.

Before remotes, If one had means, one could travel to the opposite coast to work entities they could not work from home.

Technology has lead to the democratization of DXCC.   It's now available to people of limited means, both monetarily and antenna wise.

If someone beats you on the DXCC honor roll because they operated remotely legally, you should not be upset.  You know how they did it, if "how they did it" upsets you.

I'm sure when the same thing happened back in the early days of radio, the hams that "lost out" in the DXCC race due to opposite-coast operation were also very upset.

Simply jealousy.

We have survived many changes in technology over the past 100 years.   DXCC will continue to be a fun and engaging endeavor.

Remote is here to stay, as is FT8.

73,

Gerry W1VE
5BDXCC, none via remote
A very active remote operator from VY1AAA (now QRT) and other remote stations.
  

-- 
Bruce A. Manning
Gerry Hull
 

Implementing a distance limit, any limit, on the location WITHIN a DXCC Entity blatantly disregards 100 years of history with the program.

Since the founding of DXCC, one has been able to operate ANYWHERE within a DXCC entity for credit worked from that entity.

Before remotes, If one had means, one could travel to the opposite coast to work entities they could not work from home.

Technology has lead to the democratization of DXCC.   It's now available to people of limited means, both monetarily and antenna wise.

If someone beats you on the DXCC honor roll because they operated remotely legally, you should not be upset.  You know how they did it, if "how they did it" upsets you.

I'm sure when the same thing happened back in the early days of radio, the hams that "lost out" in the DXCC race due to opposite-coast operation were also very upset.

Simply jealousy.

We have survived many changes in technology over the past 100 years.   DXCC will continue to be a fun and engaging endeavor.

Remote is here to stay, as is FT8.

73,

Gerry W1VE
5BDXCC, none via remote
A very active remote operator from VY1AAA (now QRT) and other remote stations.
  

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