Steven Rutledge <steven.t.rutledge@...>
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As far as the HOA issue goes.....I have moved seven times through
my career. I have never lived within an "HOA." How was that?
Well, I was a ham. I was familiar with antenna restrictions and
HOA primacy. Hams who have HOA problems can only blame
themselves. They choose to buy in a restricted community, take
the deed and agree to do everything that is laid out to them.
Then they get in the house and think that they can change
everything just for their own interests, everyone else be damned.
Pretty selfish I think.
There are plenty of places you can live in America that do not
have deed restrictions. If you choose to live in a neighborhood
that does, that is your choice. Its a free country, at least
On 8/6/2020 6:40 PM, Skip wrote:
Risking life and maybe limb ... I will pick
two nits with folks:
HOA's are not automatically demons. Please stop portraying them
as such. We sold "The Farm," where I had plenty of room for
antennas with no one to complain about them, to one of our kids
and spouse when age began to make maintenance difficult or near
impossible. We purposely bought our house here in Sparks for
its location, topography [flat lots, no icy hills in winter, and
closeness to shopping and major streets/roads]. It is an
appropriate distance from our local son and his family. It is
an HOA community with deed CC&R's.
Our HOA and neighbors are benign and benevolent. No, I can't
have my 70' tower in the back yard, I had no expectation or plan
for that, and that's not the least bit unusual or strange. I
was adamantly opposed to ARRL's ARPA. Had it become law, it
would have changed our relationship with our HOA dramatically,
and for the worse. In return, my HOA could have met its
obligation to allow me "an effective outdoor antenna" by
allowing me to have an outdoor, 440 MHz 1/4 wave ground plane.
Our HOA maintains the common areas, internal streets, and the
rules assure that we'll have a pleasant community to live out
our lives. Please stop bashing them generically as if they're
all bad just because I can't put up 4 over 4 over 4 on 20 on a
I joined the W7RN crew and operate it remotely, it's about 40-45
km LOS from me, full power, very high Coefficient of Aerial
Aluminum, and very low man-made noise. I also have a WOOF at
home -- end-fed Wire On Organic Fence. If I ever have need to
call a roofing company, I'll have them install another invisible
wire going up the eave to the ridge, across to the other side,
and down that eave. W7RN remote and the WOOF allow me to get as
much hamming in as I desire.
My second nit is, "What ever happened to the adaptability of
hams?" So, let the flames begin
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
On 8/6/2020 11:45 AM, w2ttt wrote:
are conflating a lot of important topics and I agree with you
on each of them. The original focus was on remote stations.
They are fine, but varied in character and use. If the remote
is my primary station and it's mine, that is one case.
Another is the rental remote. Again, fine but a different
know guys who have cancelled their plans to retire to Maine
because of the remotes. If they were categorized separately,
the locals and the remotes would only compete for bandwidth.
A local has to address local conditions that uniquely impact
local operators. Sleep cycles, work and worship hours, and
weather can impact a local operator's performance in ways that
a remote operator may not have to address. To be clear, both
modes are good, just different.
the subject of getting youth on the air in an HOA, deed
restricted and zoning limited world of cookie-cutter homes is
simply frigjtening. You can't have certain vehicles in some
neighborhoods. I have a RAM Promaster with windows all
around, and because of the antennas, I get comments - usually
snarky. Well, we (Nancy, N2FWI and I) raised three sons who
are licensed Amateurs, Eagle Scouts and employed. They too,
are busy with getting careers moving, but there may a time
when life settles down and there is time to operate.
I have neighbors who
don't like my truck, or my antennas, but their kids are bored
and barely going through life. We have a cookie-cutter world
and that is driving down creativity and enabling this
heightened level of narcissism as seen on the Internet as a
path to fulfillment. It started with participation trophies
and this is where we are now.
need to sort out what interests younger folks, even if it will
fit better once they hit 40 or 50. Our sons understand why
Dad has 100+ US Patents - they grew up around it and the
richness of life that God gave us that enabled that
intellectual property. The challenges are deeper than what
the ARRL can do by itself. It is a societal deficit that we
are trying to fix.