Some of the legacy awards, ones that take years to complete, (i.e. 5BDXCC, Challenge, etc.), one may start out with the vision in their head of the plaque, then as they finally attain their goal the plaque changes and it is something they might turn their nose up at. For years I worked for the 5XDXCC, then found the plaque changed. Disappointment and heartache. Sharron found one for me and I was excited as a puppy!
For challenge, I was always under the impression that if one worked a country on one band it was one point, and if they worked them in a different mode it was another point. From what I now understand that is not so. Despite that, I’m almost there. Pickings get slimmer as you near 300 as I think everyone will agree.
Good luck in your endevors gentlemen!
Dale K8TS
*From:* ARRL-Awards@... <ARRL-Awards@...> *On Behalf Of *bmanning
*Sent:* Monday, May 9, 2022 3:29 PM
*To:* ARRL-Awards@...; Neil Foster <archernf@...>
*Subject:* Re: [ARRL-Awards] Challenge Award
I agree that the older style plaques should be available for those that want one. As for the cost, I assume that HQ would just pass that along to the person requesting the award. So there would be no cost to the League. My 2 cents worth.
73
 Bruce NJ3K
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From: W0MU <w0mu@... <mailto:w0mu@...>>
Date: 5/9/22 13:57 (GMT-05:00)
To: ARRL-Awards@... <mailto:ARRL-Awards@...>, Neil Foster <archernf@... <mailto:archernf@...>>
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Challenge Award
I prefer the more prestigious older looking awards over the new Trendy designs of late.  To each their own.  Does anyone actually do any marketing studies on what the members actually want before changing awards and art work?  Are there panels of people that are asked for their opinions and given options?    This is a pretty common thing in marketing and our awards are marketing.
W0MU
On 5/9/2022 11:47 AM, Steven R Daniel, D.D.S. wrote:
Good afternoon all. I rarely post to this list but I read and enjoy
the posts. I have participated in the Challenge since its inception.
I just reviewed the rules on arrl.org and found them to be clear and
succinct. Including the part about no certificate being available.
That discussion has gone on for approximately two years.
May I ask, Neil, what you and your colleagues find wanting in the
posted description?
Steve Daniel, NN4T
On 05/09/2022 10:30 AM Neil Foster <archernf@...>
<mailto:archernf@...> wrote:
Thanks Ria, I would suggest that a CLEAR explanation of the
Challenge award be written and published. A few friends have the
same issue that I did. I finally hit the 1500 mark last week and
that may be it. I doubt I will hit the 2000 mark. I have 347
country/entity confirmations in LOTW and 8 bands. so what I am
now chasing is band or mode contacts. Still fun. Again thanks
for the reply. Also I agree with others the plaque is ugly.
However, I do have one. The certificate is much nicer for the
other awards. I have the old and new WAS certificate a nice job
was done with the new one.
88 es tnx    Neil   N4FN   and like you I chase 'em on CW,
Digital and some Phone.  Oh another thought on LOTW why does the
column head for Digital still read RT for RTTY. It should have
been changed a long time ago. Again my two centavos.