Re: Emailed QSLs


Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
 

Ria,

Well, point taken about North Korea.  I'm not going to look for their operators, but I'll work them out of courtesy if they call me.  To me it's like talking with Cubans.  I'll leave that topic alone except to ask how their domestic operators got their licenses? 

I'm about as impressed with someone who has worked 300 entities as I am about someone else who has worked 200 or 250.  They're all good.

Keep in mind that I got into ham radio after ten years as an SWL and earned the ticket to get off of HF and get onto the VHF/UHF+ bands!  :-)

I've never craved DXCC, preferring grid squares for their more agnostic, albeit imperfect, definition.

After almost 47 years, I just got around to getting WAS because my logging program and LoTW automated it. I decided to punch the ticket at 100 countries on 40m as it isn't 20m.  :-)  Almost there, just give me a few more months, or maybe the DX Phone Contest next month.  Maybe later I'll do it on the VHF/UHF bands, but my wallspace is limited by radio gear!  :-) 

Honestly, I think these awards are useful in demonstrating the fun of meeting the technical and operator skill challenges of Amateur Radio to others getting into the hobby, or an aspect of the hobby.

As I've said before, it's a shame that we need all the authentication nonsense in LoTW because folks willfully cheat.  Having gone through the LoTW  administration process, "awards" are now less of a paperwork process and that is always good.  I have ACLog automatically uploading my QSOs and I just need to download the confirmations. 

As for QSLs, they are also instructive tools and momentos of good times.  Anti-faud is not their raison d'etre, so I really don't care how they come.  

73,
Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
201.314.6964
W2TTT@...

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From: ARRL-Awards@... <ARRL-Awards@...> on behalf of Ria, N2RJ <rjairam@...>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 8:50:44 AM
To: ARRL-Awards@... <ARRL-Awards@...>
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Emailed QSLs
 
There is no specific requirement to sign QSL cards.

Card checkers do examine cards for physical signs of forgery or non-adherence to the rules. The handwritten signature puts something on the card that can’t be duplicated via e-mail, or eQSL. 

With that said, I’m sure people have printed out emailed QSLs and eQSLs and used them for award submissions successfully. However, a card for a contact with Italy or Germany on 20 meters would be scrutinized a lot less than one for North Korea on 160, to use two extreme examples. My 160m cards have always had more scrutiny on them with the card checker noting the time of the contact on the DXCC forms. 

Cards get rejected for all sorts of reasons including scratching off the contact info and replacing it with something else. In that case the card checker will ask you to forward the card to the awards desk for further verification.

Ria
N2RJ




On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 11:05 PM w2ttt <w2ttt@...> wrote:
Ria,
Does this mean that mailed cards need to be signed?
I have received printed QSL cards in an envelope.  Are they not valid?
If they are valid, or have been valid in the past, then how are they substantively different than an emailed card? 
73,
Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
201.314.6964



From: ARRL-Awards@... <ARRL-Awards@...> on behalf of Ria, N2RJ <rjairam@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 5:57:52 PM
To: ARRL-Awards@... <ARRL-Awards@...>
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Emailed QSLs
 
There is one route for them to be valid for ARRL awards. Print out the card, send it to the person who sent it and let them sign it and return it to you by postal mail. 

This way it becomes a regular QSL card…

Otherwise no go. 

73
Ria
N2RJ

On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 5:10 PM Pete W1RM <w1rm@...> wrote:

I may have posed this question before, but I’ll ask again.

 

I have received several QSLs via email with a request for a reply.  The sender also says they are putting the QSO on LoTW and sending a QSL via the bureau.

 

Is there any value to an emailed QSL?  If the QSL were printed and submitted for an award, would it count?  If not, then why?  Is there a difference between a printed QSL and a printed QSL that’s on a card?

 

The face of ham radio is changing and so are the approaches to confirming a QSO.  Now LoTW has it’s level of security but a paper QSL? 

 

 

Pete Chamalian, W1RM

W1RM@...

 

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