Re: Forum Issue?

Barry Porter <barryp13@...>

The way it is “supposed to be” but in reality it is not:

SMs take feedback from their members, and give this info to their
Division Director. This is what is broken. Most Division Directors 
do not want or care to listen to the SMs. We are supposed to be in the 
Directors cabinet, and the Directors are supposed to have cabinet meetings.
Again, broken. 

However, This should NOT stop you from taking feedback from places
like here, and reporting this feedback to your Director, and Documenting
that feedback was sent. Also request followup on any actions taken or not taken.

As has been said here before, the Directors need to be accountable to their
members, and if they are not, WE have the power of the ballot box (the executive
committee and other directors do not have this power (other than rigging
elections but that is another story). 


On Jul 29, 2021, at 6:46 PM, Steven Lott Smith KG5VK ARRL NTX SM <lottsphoto@...> wrote:

Someone could possibly convince me to not Un subscribe to this Group, or not :)

Why am I considering Unsubscribe, because it is obvious I am only hear to listen
as an SM has no meaningful input
based I what I have seen from feedback
members only want addressed by Directors or ARRL Staff
in the last thread that I chose to Mute myself out of

I feel I should only contribute where it is useful
Apologies for the wasted bandwidth
and I will listen for one or two more rounds


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On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 5:25 PM Ria, N2RJ <rjairam@...> wrote:
We do not govern staff directly.

We set policy and the CEO is responsible for implementation. He then
delegates to department managers who then delegate to staff.

Ria, N2RJ

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 5:34 PM Steven Rutledge
<steven.t.rutledge@...> wrote:
> Probably a huge gap between the directors and the paid staff.  ARRL staff probably goes about their business with little interaction of BOD.  Probably not intentional, I hope, but who knows.  In a perfect world, the paid employees would have a plan, set by the BOD, and implement that plan.  There seems to be a disconnect, doesn't there?
> Steve, N4JQQ
> On 7/28/2021 9:51 PM, W0MU wrote:
> It seems like some directors live in an different world of the ARRL than the members.  Could this be a problem????????????
> W0MU
> On 7/28/2021 8:13 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
> + AA6YQ comments below
> 90 percent of all fire ground incidents are because of comm issues.  Similar numbers for corporate problems.  People have a hard time communicating clearly and effectively.
> + This was not a "comm issue". ARRL employee David Isgur was assigned the ownership of the new "open to everyone" online groups when the "Communications with Members" Committee was disbanded by the Board of Directors. His responsibilities included informing new Directors of the existence of these groups, and encouraging ARRL Directors, Executives, Managers, and Staff to actively participate in them. Mr. Isgur left the ARRL sometime after the Committee was disbanded. Either no one from the ARRL debriefed him to understand his responsibilities, or he was debriefed but his responsibilities were not assigned one or more ARRL staff members, or  the ARRL staff members to whom his responsibilities were assigned have failed to execute them; whichever, a tour-de-force of management incompetence.
> + And it's so nice to have an un-informed Director blame the volunteers who created and moderate the new groups without having lifted a finger to first understand the situation. The ARRL has more competent volunteers than it knows what to do with, and so can afford to demotivate them without thinking about it. Well done, sir!
>          73,
>                Dave, AA6YQ

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