It would be interesting to hear
the take on all this from Mr. Lane OH2BH, who has
made possible many “impossible” entities. There are
many places where he has shown up, provided
diplomacy, and provided long lost entities. Albania
(ZA) once unworkable, comes to mind.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] 5B DXCC and WAS
Agree with Gary. The
Summits On The Air group decided that, while a
particular valid summit might be on private or
native land and inaccessible, or possibly a
bombing range for military training if you live in
Nevada, that can change and inaccessibility is not
grounds for removal from the summits registry.
Admittedly, there are vastly more summits
worldwide that meet the SOTA requirement [150 m
prominence] than there are DXCC entities, so the
idea of "Climbing or Working All Summits" is just
a pipedream, but I think the concept is still
valid. Alpine County CA has no active hams
[actually, it is close to having no people], yet
NCCC still offers the Worked All California
Counties award ... there's always one or two teams
that activate it during Cal QSO Party, and an
occasional mobile will drive through.
Clinton DeSoto's original DXCC proposal was "work
and confirm 100 countries." There are way more
than 100 available countries [or entities in
today-speak] for anyone who wishes, which I
finally did after ~50 years, to get DeSoto's DXCC
award. The concepts of 100 or more on each band
or mode, and working them all, came after as the
award grew in importance. I view those pursuits
as semi-separate from DXCC. I would suggest not
tinkering with it. Full disclosure: Two of my 150
mixed are BS7H and Czechoslovakia, neither of
which are available or likely ever will be to
someone starting out today.
My DXCC certificate [kind of impressive, nice wood
frame from Target] has the 150 sticker on it. I
may work a few more over what time I have left [81
today], but working them all is a task that I
won't have to confront.
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
PS: In case anyone wonders, 81.0000 feels pretty
much the same as 80.9973 did
On 6/1/2021 11:39 PM, Gary
Everest is still there,
even with your no-climbing signs.
Pretending that EZ or
P5 don’t exist simply because there’s no amateur
radio there at present is daft.
I understand your
point, Bruce, but that’s not how DXCC works.
The challenge to work
EZ or P5
includes the challenge of convincing the
authorities that amateur radio is at worst
benign, and in some ways beneficial for them.
Getting operating permission and the correct
paperwork from the relevant authorities is part
of the battle to reach the summit – just as
chartering a ship, braving the roaring forties
and scrambling up ice cliffs with the gear and
supplies is part of the battle to activate
Bouvet, Heard or Peter islands.
You seem to believe EZ
never be activated, at least not in your
lifetime or mine for that matter. I’m more
optimistic, idly wondering what, if anything,
the global amateur community can do to help
surmount the obstacles …