The reason I resigned from
the CAC. Many years of promised changes and nothing. Many years
of the same Stuff different day. New directors fell right into
the same trap or they were not honest with the membership to get
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The ARRL rules like the Gov't. They know what is best and how
dare you question them.
If I was not a life member I would not be a member because the
ARRL stopped servicing the needs of them members years and years
Resistant to change is a huge understatement.
The ARRL does not poll the membership because they simply do not
want our feedback.
On 5/26/2021 10:07 AM, K8TS wrote:
To mention that there was a pre-release
model, suggests that there was thought put into it. Why was
the membership not asked their opinion? If they were, when and
where? I’m sorry, this is a very sore subject with many. Many
did it the hard way (myself included). No beams, no towers, no
4-squares, no amps. Just ground mounted verticals and wires.
And then to find out that the beloved plaque no longer
existed, only a resemblance of the certificate on plexiglass
was a slap in the face of many who worked hard for it. I don’t
know how many others did/do feel, but I personally
If it had to be changed, for some unknown
reasons, why was it not made distinguishable from the
certificate, instead of a copy-cat version wrapped in
On this issue, the lack of transparency is
pretty foggy. It has cheapened an outstanding award. The
opinion is again of the tail wagging the dog, with little or
no input from the membership. The cost has probably been
reduced for the Awards Department, but I didn’t notice any
significate decrease to the membership who spent years and
hundreds of dollars achieving it.
Like Dick said, why pay outrageous fees and
shipping when the frame can be purchased from Walmart, and the
trip to the trophy shop for a minute amount compared to the
I’m not quitting ARRL over this, but it
sure does not tilt the scales in their direction. ARRL is back
to their old ways. Membership organization? HA.
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Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] 5B DXCC and WAS
When I needed to add
another Band to my 5BDXCC Plaque,
I took it to a local
realize that these medallions are being updated for cost
and flexibility, but how odd do they look with old and
new styles on the same plaque?
don't have a dog in this fight, but it seems like a
Yes, I had seen these (the new style plastic ones)
pre-release at HQ
before anyone had gotten them. I know about them. I
wasn't aware that
they had revised the medallions further.
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 6:05 PM K8TS
> They did away with the nice wooden ones that were
envisioned on the wall for years and years. Something
about the vendor. There are 100’s of plaque makers that
would take that business in a heartbeat. When I found
out that my 5-band would be a piece of plastic that
looked identical to the certificate for the same price
as the wood one I went ballistic. I can buy the same
frame at Walmart, stick the $12.00 fancy “new”
certificate in it and be ahead $40.00. It is a shame. It
is sad. I wanted the wooden one. I had dreamed of it.
Was not to be. I will not buy that cheap piece which is
no different from the paper. The awards people think
that 2¢ saved on an award will please the membership
because it goes to the bottom line. I don’t remember the
membership being asked if they wanted something
different. Some things don’t change. The prestige of
earning 5 band DXCC does not. The whim of the awards
> I’m not aiming this directly at you, but it’s crap.
That’s the way I feel, and I have already had a talk
with my director about it. Awards said they would look
into the matter. That was over a year ago. Now I see
many other hard to complete awards going the same way.
Now it sounds like they are changing boats again. It’s
BS. The awards program is being compromised and
> Dale Cole K8TS
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> To: ARRL-Awards@...
> Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] 5B DXCC and WAS
> Medallions? Is this a revision to the plexiglass
plaque? I have the
> wooden one and I got plates on mine that listed the
band. They don't
> say 5 Band DXCC award on them.
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 4:14 PM Scott Stembaugh
> > 5BDXCC and 5BWAS take considerable effort,
time, and money to achieve. Some are proud enough of
their achievement to spend the money for the Plaque.
Then as they continue to operate they work towards
endorsements for the other bands. The amount of time
and money spent on chasing these awards can be
> > I have the 5BDXCC plaque. I also had the
credits to get the 17m and 30m endorsement medallions
when I ordered it. Very nice medallions that say '5
BAND DXCC AWARD' around the circumference.
> > A couple of months ago I achieved DXCC on 12m
and promptly ordered the 12m Medallion for the plaque.
After one 'got lost in the mail', the medallion arrived
this week. After putting in on the plaque I noticed it
didn't match the 17m and 30m medallions. Instead of '5
BAND DXCC AWARD' it says '5 BAND AWARD'. And
explanation for the Awards Desk was that this was
changed to save money so all the 5 Band awards would use
the same medallion.
> > IMHO, an endorsement medallion that goes on
plaque that that takes many many years to achieve should
remain consistent for the recipient. The mix of
medallion styles is not nearly as aesthetically pleasing
as when they all match. Is the change really saving the
ARRL that much money compared to the cost of award to
the recipient? Aside from the QSLing and Card/LoTW
applications the basic plaque is $60 + $10.50 for each
endorsement medallion bring the lifetime costs, if you
succeed getting all the bands, to $123. Is the ARRL
losing money on these awards?
> > Please stop mucking with the designs.
> > --scott N9LJX
> > PS - FWIW I did NOT get the plaque for 5BWAS
opting for just the certificate. Hopefully when I
achieve the endorsement stickers for 6m and 160m they
will match my 12/17/30 stickers.