On Oct 29, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Dick <w1ksz@...> wrote:

Then how did Scarborough Reef get on the List ?

From the pictures I have seen, those rocks are not
connected by land the shows at high tide ???

Was the criteria changed AFTER they got on the list
and therefore they are Grandfathered ??

73, Dick, W1KSZ
From: ARRL-Awards@... <ARRL-Awards@...> on behalf of Phil Temples <phil@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Scarborough Reef

Here's the definition for what constitutes an island-country:

"Island: A naturally formed area of land surrounded by water, the
surface of which is above water at high tide. For the purposes of this
award, it must consist of connected land, of which at least two
surface points must be separated from each other by not less than 100
meters measured in a straight line from point to point. All of the
connected land must be above the high tide mark, as demonstrated on a
chart of sufficient scale. For the purposes of this award, any island,
reef, or rocks of less than this size shall not be considered in the
application of the water separation criteria described in Part 2 of
the criteria."

You might not agree with the definition, but you have to admit it's
fairly detailed and describes more than "a pile of rocks sticking out
of the water."

73,

Phil Temples, K9HI

ARRL Vice Director
New England Division
k9hi@...

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:33 AM W0MU <w0mu@...> wrote:

I think the definition needs to be changed to not allow a small pile of rocks sticking up out of the water where you have to build scaffolding just to get on them to something that requires X amount of land area etc.

Scaffold rocks aks BS rocks was a political thing.

Every entity named below has significant land mass. I am not sure you could even find BS rocks on a satellite image without a microscope.

W0MU

On 10/29/2020 9:01 AM, H Hans Brakob wrote:


Many DXCC entities are not “real countries”.

Bouvet isn’t a real country, Alaska isn’t a real country, Jan Mayen isn’t a real country, Desecheo isn’t a real country..... and so on.


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Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 9:54:12 AM
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Subject: [ARRL-Awards] Scarborough Reef


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BS7, Scarborough Reef, IS NOT a real country. It should be deleted.

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73, de Hans, K0HB
"Just a Boy and His Radio"™

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Phil Temples <phil@...>