This discussion has been very interesting.
There are many opinions and some people want to preserve their
advantage and other want it easy.
The one FACT that everyone is not recognizing is when the
possibility of achieving #1 Honor Roll becomes 0 then the award
loses its
value and everyone who does not have one of the impossible entities
just writes the award off.
For an award to have value it must be obtainable (not necessarily
easy or fast).
The reefs that don't exist should be removed because they don't
exist.
Countries where it is ILLEGAL to operate should be removed because
the government cant
authorize a legal operation without changing the law.
Countries where the dictator does not allow operations should not
because the dictator
can authorize an operation at any time and therefore it is not
totally impossible.
I have written this award off and am not even trying for it because
I do not have
2 entities that will not be available ever. I do have many of those
that no longer exist and
need one that is very unlikely but if the impossibles were removed I
would try.
Roger, N5QS
On 9/22/2020 5:47 PM, Angel Santana
WP3GW via groups.arrl.org wrote:
Bruce and all:
The case of my prefix: by 1978 the KP3, NP3, WP3
prefix was given to Serrana Bank and Cayo Roncador, places which
was also being reclaimed by Colombia the reason it also had the
HK0 prefix. Four years later the US "relinquished" it's interest
and deleted for DXCC list on September 16, 1981.
By 1996 the KP3 passes to Puerto Rico.
BTW, when I started on HF on 2000, on the CQ WW
SSB heard on 15m the KH5K expedition working the contest. Gave a
call and got the QSO. When the operator realized I was in North
America, expressed a "Wow" and began calling for NA.
A chance to work a new DXCC entity at that time,
and I was just beginning. And Sun cycle 23 was in full force.
Angel Santana WP3GW
Sent from my
T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
-------- Original message --------
Date: 9/22/20 6:14 PM (GMT-04:00)
Subject: Re: [ARRL-Awards] Reefs?
One of the depressing things about leaving entities on the list
that not
active and may be decades before they become active is the fact
that
someone puts up a big station, dedicates a lot of $$ and time to
achieving
Top of the Honor Roll and dies before he gets there. So I guess a
lot of
getting there is when you were born and how long you live. In my
case I do
have a few that are difficult to get today. I checked Club Log
most wanted
for North America East Coast CW and in the top dozen I have BV9P
Paratas
Is., CE0X San Felix Is., KH7K Kure Is., and FT5X Kerguelen Is. So
I assume
that some folks today would really like to have some of these in
there log?
73
Bruce NJ3K
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 17:55:45 -0400, Dave AA6YQ
<aa6yq@...>
wrote:
> + AA6YQ comments below
>
> With all due respect, Dave, a love it or leave it
pronouncement is not
> acceptable.
>
> + In your opinion. For many DXers, the top of the DXCC Honor
Roll has
been
> a lifelong pursuit. Changing the rules because some DXers
consider them
> "too hard" would be an insult.
>
>
> governments take old laws off their books (ex: Massachusetts
blue laws),
> so why shouldn’t DXCC.
>
> + DXCC isn't a law. There is no "worked all laws" award.
>
>
> i need need three to have worked them all. I will be patient
with
> Glorioso. less patient with P5, and somewhat angry that some
dxers
(such
> as russians) have multiple opportunities to work them while
others have
> zero opportunity. And not all all patient with BS7. It needs
5i be
> reviewed, and if there is no chance that it will ever
reemerge, in this
> century at least, removed from the list.
>
> + Focus on what you can control: your station, your operating
skills,
your
> understanding of propagation, and your awareness of DXing
activities.
Small
> operations have in the past activated rare DXCC entities with
little or
no
> warning; be ready.
>
> + When I got my Novice ticket in 1990, some DXers were
agitating for the
> removal of Albania, where amateur radio had been forbidden
for decades.
> China had been similarly unavailable for many years. I
reached the top
of
> the SSB Honor Roll in 2008. I still need North Korea in CW,
as well as
> Bouvet, Scarborough, Crozet, and Kerguelen in RTTY. Reaching
the top of
the
> CW Honor Roll via the deletion of North Korea would be
disgusting.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave, AA6YQ
>
>
>
>
>
--
Bruce A. Manning
